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[Koreanese]

Before bf4 comes out and I loose interest in this ******** community, ill say what needs to be said.

Look at all these posts about game balaces. Buff this, nerf that. This is fine etc. This is perfectly fine, except majority of people complaining are not competant players. Lets just face it. There are people better then you. Yes, he just shot you down with X. What do people do? "Omg X is op!" Along with very well thought and written essay. Then comes along with "l2p nub" and debating essays how I am right and you are wrong. Then pgi decides to listen these fools and make the game even more ******** then it already is. From what I see, this seem to happen throughout the entire time I played the game. Solution? Just stop complaining on the foru ms with your scholar like debates. Play the game, get better, and move your way up.

So thats pretty much it. You can flame me all you like. I have nothing to loose

O yes, only reason why I visit this forum is becaus...... well its funny to read all the stupidity. Pure comedy

Edited by Koreanese, 22 June 2013 - 12:10 PM.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Koreanese, on 22 June 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Before bf4 comes out and I loose interest in this ******** community, ill say what needs to be said.

Still playing Battlefield.

Not joining glorious ArmA3 master race.

[Lord Perversor]

Koreanese, on 22 June 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Before bf4 comes out and I loose interest in this ******** community, ill say what needs to be said.

Look at all these posts about game balaces. Buff this, nerf that. This is fine etc. This is perfectly fine, except majority of people complaining are not competant players. Lets just face it. There are people better then you. Yes, he just shot you down with X. What do people do? "Omg X is op!" Along with very well thought and written essay. Then comes along with "l2p nub" and debating essays how I am right and you are wrong. Then pgi decides to listen these fools and make the game even more ******** then it already is. From what I see, this seem to happen throughout the entire time I played the game. Solution? Just stop complaining on the foru ms with your scholar like debates. Play the game, get better, and move your way up.

So thats pretty much it. You can flame me all you like. I have nothing to loose

O yes, only reason why I visit this forum is becaus...... well its funny to read all the stupidity. Pure comedy

While i do agree you are mostly right, there is also a need to balance a bit all weapons just to allow some diversity instead the stupid builds everyone is carrying without any true idea of playing.

[MustrumRidcully]

Koreanese, on 22 June 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Before bf4 comes out and I loose interest in this ******** community, ill say what needs to be said.

Look at all these posts about game balaces. Buff this, nerf that. This is fine etc. This is perfectly fine, except majority of people complaining are not competant players. Lets just face it. There are people better then you. Yes, he just shot you down with X. What do people do? "Omg X is op!" Along with very well thought and written essay. Then comes along with "l2p nub" and debating essays how I am right and you are wrong. Then pgi decides to listen these fools and make the game even more ******** then it already is. From what I see, this seem to happen throughout the entire time I played the game. Solution? Just stop complaining on the foru ms with your scholar like debates. Play the game, get better, and move your way up.

So thats pretty much it. You can flame me all you like. I have nothing to loose

O yes, only reason why I visit this forum is becaus...... well its funny to read all the stupidity. Pure comedy

I am not convinced that PGI is listening too anyone specifically. Some of the foolish ideas seem to be their own...

I think they basically just notice that people complain about item X, and then they decide what to do about it, if anything. I don't get the feeling that they followed the Machine Gun discussion all that closely. I mean, they certainly didn'T miss that we were (or are) complaining, but have they actually listened to the arguments?

Considering that they never addressed those, I don't believe so. Of course, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 22 June 2013 - 12:27 PM.

[Ecliptic]

[Und3rSc0re]

But ppcs koreanese PPCSSSS!

[El Bandito]

Koreanese, on 22 June 2013 - 12:06 PM, said:

Before bf4 comes out and I loose interest in this ******** community, ill say what needs to be said. Look at all these posts about game balaces. Buff this, nerf that. This is fine etc. This is perfectly fine, except majority of people complaining are not competant players. Lets just face it. There are people better then you. Yes, he just shot you down with X. What do people do? "Omg X is op!" Along with very well thought and written essay. Then comes along with "l2p nub" and debating essays how I am right and you are wrong. Then pgi decides to listen these fools and make the game even more ******** then it already is. From what I see, this seem to happen throughout the entire time I played the game. Solution? Just stop complaining on the foru ms with your scholar like debates. Play the game, get better, and move your way up. So thats pretty much it. You can flame me all you like. I have nothing to loose O yes, only reason why I visit this forum is becaus...... well its funny to read all the stupidity. Pure comedy

You claim to have seen everything but your words run hollow. If PGI actually listened to half what the community has been saying, we wouldn't have current broken ECM, useless SRM and LBX etc... Most of the mess made by PGI was due to their own faulty (and slooooow) balancing, not our feedbacks.

And stop with your "everything is balanced, just get better" attitude. Without the community feedbacks (that you call whines), PGI wouldn't have fixed all those broken builds (from the old Splatcats to more recently, the poptarts) that made this game less enjoyable to the majority. Mechanics such as instant pin-point big alphas are not only game balance problem, it also ruins the level of fun and immersion the game can achieve. Currently all we see are PPC boats--on all class of mechs.

8-man wh0ring "elites" might feel ok with min/maxing whatever is FoTM to victory but the overwhelming majority of the players of MWO just want to have fun playing this game.

MWO game problems do not lie with the community--they lie with PGI. Always has been. And people don't have to be "competent" (learn to spell, will ya?) or competitive to point out the faults or submit good ideas. Angry Joe didn't need to be in the X-Box One dev team to see that DRM will be a bust. I don't need to be a competent player to know that Large Pulse Laser change made it even worse pick.

Edited by El Bandito, 22 June 2013 - 01:11 PM.

[DocBach]

he does have a point - when Battlefield 4 comes out, I'm totally out of here

[Pater Mors]

DocBach, on 22 June 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

he does have a point - when Battlefield 4 comes out, I'm totally out of here

My fiancee nearly broke up with me when BF3 came out... I don't know what we're going to do when BF4 arrives... Maybe I can get her into Commander Mode.

[Sephlock]

Mechs need to be a staple of the Battlefield series...

[Sephlock]

Pater Mors, on 22 June 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

My fiancee nearly broke up with me when BF3 came out... I don't know what we're going to do when BF4 arrives... Maybe I can get her into Commander Mode.

For your anniversary, get her a second controller (or if you're playing on the PC, get her a gaming PC).

The Ladies love mushy stuff like that. MIRITE FELLAS?

[Pater Mors]

Sephlock, on 22 June 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

For your anniversary, get her a second controller (or if you're playing on the PC, get her a gaming PC).

The Ladies love mushy stuff like that. MIRITE FELLAS?

She's a COD fan. Probably just better if I end it now.

[Koreanese]

Pater Mors, on 22 June 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

My fiancee nearly broke up with me when BF3 came out... I don't know what we're going to do when BF4 arrives... Maybe I can get her into Commander Mode.

Isnt she your commander already?

[Pater Mors]

Koreanese, on 22 June 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

Isnt she your commander already?

Touché!

[Gaan Cathal]

You might have a point if success with pinpoint alpha builds actually required a significant amount more skill than other builds. Fact is, it requires substantially less. More or less, if you can play Monkey Island, you can win at pinpoint alpha.

[MustrumRidcully]

DocBach, on 22 June 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

he does have a point - when Battlefield 4 comes out, I'm totally out of here

I am waiting for Shadowrun Returns.

[Corvus Antaka]

the biggest problem is these whiney threads that offer up nothing constructive.

[Inhibition]

El Bandito, on 22 June 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

You claim to have seen everything but your words run hollow. If PGI actually listened to half what the community has been saying, we wouldn't have current broken ECM, useless SRM and LBX etc... Most of the mess made by PGI was due to their own faulty (and slooooow) balancing, not our feedbacks.

And stop with your "everything is balanced, just get better" attitude. Without the community feedbacks (that you call whines), PGI wouldn't have fixed all those broken builds (from the old Splatcats to more recently, the poptarts) that made this game less enjoyable to the majority. Mechanics such as instant pin-point big alphas are not only game balance problem, it also ruins the level of fun and immersion the game can achieve. Currently all we see are PPC boats--on all class of mechs.

8-man wh0ring "elites" might feel ok with min/maxing whatever is FoTM to victory but the overwhelming majority of the players of MWO just want to have fun playing this game.

MWO game problems do not lie with the community--they lie with PGI. Always has been. And people don't have to be "competent" (learn to spell, will ya?) or competitive to point out the faults or submit good ideas. Angry Joe didn't need to be in the X-Box One dev team to see that DRM will be a bust. I don't need to be a competent player to know that Large Pulse Laser change made it even worse pick.

I agree with Koreanese.

We see ppc's on all classes of mechs. We also see medium lasers and lrm's on all classes of mechs.
So medium lasers and lrm's are a problem because they are on all classes of mechs?

There will always be a superior weapon and there will always be an inferior weapon.
People will tend to use the superior weapon.

[Gaan Cathal]

Inhibition, on 22 June 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

I agree with Koreanese.

We see ppc's on all classes of mechs. We also see medium lasers and lrm's on all classes of mechs.
So medium lasers and lrm's are a problem because they are on all classes of mechs?

There will always be a superior weapon and there will always be an inferior weapon.
People will tend to use the superior weapon.

And the easier weapon to use should be the inferior one. Currently the easiest weapon to use (bar, arguably, SSRMs) are the superior ones. A game can stand a degree of weapon imbalance if potency is paid for by an increased skill floor. Currently, as I say, a vastly superior weapon has a pathetically low skill floor.

[Stoicblitzer]

i think that most good players want the game to be balanced and fun for everyone. they have just been around for so long that their frustration with the slowwww progress of the game is difficult to mask. i can't argue that some people play 3 matches and then think they understand the game. I can think of two recent threads where people who don't understand the game were shot down by the majority of the forum warriors including myself (one was about LRMs being OP and the other was about mediums/lights being OP). these are the minority. i think bf4 is going to be more like bf3.5.