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[phelancracken]

Elkarlo, on 11 June 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

Thats Totally wrong, their favourit Light Scout Mech is the Griffin. It's even stands behind the Throne.
Then they have as Med serves the Grasshopper and the Heavy Scout is the Banshee.. The Atlas is along with the Light Firsupport Mech Zeus the mobile Workshorse Mech of Lyrian Commonwealth...

ROTFL!!! That sounds so typically Lyran. And here I thought their favorite scout mech would become the Wraith. Oh wait, too fast.

[ViperPryde]

STK-5M rapes all....good day sir...

[wpmaura]

acording to my super scientific study in MW4 Atlas beats Stalker every time

[trycksh0t]

Comparing the standard models, the STK-3F Stalker and AS7-D Atlas, I would take the Stalker only because of it's more versatile weapons loadout. While they share the same speed (54 kph), and the Atlas carries 5.5 tons more armor (13.5 vs. 19), the Atlas has a very limited engagement envelope, especially once it's LRMs are dry.

[UncleKulikov]

Lazer forgot to compare armor points.

[ragnarawk]

if the atlas being short ranged is the problem just drop the ac20 with its 2 tons of ammo and pick up a gauss rifle. with 1 ton of ammo. heck down grade you srm 6 to a srm 4 and pick up some more ammo or drop 2 medium lasers for 2 small lasers and get another ton of ammo that way. that leaves ya with a gauss rifle and lrm 20 for long range and 2 medium 2 small and a srm 6 for short. that would keep any light/medium mech honest. and if they happen to get out of the minimum range of the gauss or the lrm there just wasted.
honestly though the short range aspect of the atlas is one of its strenghs honestly. your not by yourself. you have the rest of your lance funnel the other team to you. its real easy to get focused on blasting that jenner to pieces and not notice the big 100 ton mech comeing up behind you.
also a LRM 20 isant anything to snease at. it still has the potential to drop the same amount of dmg as the AC/20 on a target and on average from the TT game the same dmg as a gauss rifle while still being able to indircet fire.
just my 2 cents worth. sorry for the long post.

Edited by ragnarawk, 11 June 2012 - 01:34 PM.

[Goldhawk]

The difference between a Stalker and an Atlas.

You are scouting in the city in a light mech and you turn a corner and 50 feet in front of you is........

a Stalker: You back around the corner again and run like hell. He doesn't have the heat or speed to catch you....

an Atlas: You bow down before it's feet and beg for mercy.

Also, the Atlas is replacement mech design after the unseen got shortchanged. It used to be the Battlemaster and the Marauder, but for early 3025, it was the Atlas.... I still love the B-Master, so don't say that I'm a hater.

[Elkarlo]

The Lost Mech Conflict startet around 1996. The German Copy of the Techreadout 3025 with all the unseen and AS-7D Stalker etc is from 1994.... I guess the US Version is as allways one year older.

The Atlas is simple the Design for a Mulitporpuse 100Tons mech. Like the Orion is a Mulitporpuse 75 tons mech and the Shadowhawk fills the same role but quite badly...
( AS 7d: LRM 20 AC/20 SRM 6 Orion: LRM 15 AC/10 SRM 4 Shadowhawk: LRM 5 AC/5 SRM2 all standard speed of their Class, and max Armour and all one step Smaller in Armament. with Med's as support)

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Sporkosophy, on 09 June 2012 - 05:49 AM, said:

Until we get TSM, anyways.

Atlas

+

Triple Strength Myomer

+

Mace

=

WHEEEEEEEEE
Seriously, Its like walking around using a Locust as the Mace. Except the Mace wont explode your arm off when you hit someone with it.

That and the Mace doesnt fight back as much

Also what are Unseen? I thought it was mechs they just havent shown us yet but Im starting to think its more than that

Edited by 514yer, 11 June 2012 - 06:14 PM.

[Michael Fury]

Nuff said..

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Michael Fury, on 11 June 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

Nuff said..

Which works especially well cause the silly clanner thinks its dishonorable lol
If its stupid and it works........
Or in this case if its dishonorable and it works.....

Edited by 514yer, 11 June 2012 - 06:30 PM.

[GrimFist]

Yea,

This is kinda of a compare apples and oranges thing.

1. Armor - did I say armor. A good part of making the mech last is how long it can get pounded on. You can do that with speed so you don't get hit or you can bolt, weld, and duct tape ever bit you lay hands on.

Atlas pretty much does that.

If you can modify the mech which is much easier to do in video vs. lore the chassis of the Atlas starts to get even meaner. Sure, you still have a slow slug of a mech. It breaks static defensive lines or hard points, the stalker is a good support mech for the Atlas as it can provide a bit more sustained LR and medium range firepower as the assault lance moves in.

With no cover the Stalker can tear up an Atlas and make it a close fight. Whomever gets the critical hits first probably wins. With some cover the the Atlas could move to range and once that happens. If it has not lost 7 tons of armor it's going to pound the stalker into ashtray parts.

[BoydofZINJ]

Lonner, on 09 June 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

Rather have a Warhammer or a Marauder MKII than an Atlas.

The Warhammer and Marauder are unseen and, hopefully, will not be seen. Correction, I HOPE to see them - but with the license problems the UnSeen 'Mechs are always problematic. As much as I love them, I hope they are not included JUST to make sure there are no future problems.

[Todd Lee]

Michael Fury, on 11 June 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

Nuff said..

I don't appreciate seeing one of my favorite mechs being Falcon Punched in the face Masakari/Warhawk is CLEARLY superior.

[IIIuminaughty]

LRM 10's are weak and Srms are whack
A Catapult with 2 lrms 20's and a large laser would own a stalker at distance lol

[IIIuminaughty]

Michael Fury, on 11 June 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

Nuff said..

Oh so now mechs ahve the ability to pick up things and stab the other mechs OH AND THEY CAN RYU THEM!

[Bleakheart]

I say we let'em arm wrestle for it....

[Major Bill Curtis]

StrataDragoon, on 11 June 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

LRM 10's are weak and Srms are whack
A Catapult with 2 lrms 20's and a large laser would own a stalker at distance lol

So you redesigned the Catapult without redesigning the Stalker. You do know that 2 LRM 20s and a large laser won't fit into a Catapult without some serious upgrading and redesign, and you still then have an ammunition problem you'll need to solve. This isn't MW4: a single LRM 20 weighs in at 10 tons, without ammunition or Artemis IV.

I can't wait to shoot guys like you

[Major Rampage]

Lazer Blazer, on 09 June 2012 - 04:23 AM, said:

Stalker: sleek profile 2 LRM 10'S, 2 SRM 6's, 4 medium lasers and 2 Large Lasers. coming up over a hill All of its weapons are shown first.

Atlas: Wide and bulky profile. built to be shot at. Ac20, 4 medium lasers 1 LRM 20, 1 SRM 6 and coming up over a hill you would just see its head.

The one thing I don't recall seeing mentioned here is just how vulnerable the Stalker is to being flanked. It is at least three times as thick in the torso department, making the side torsos major targets. And really, all the small mechs are going totry to kill assault mechs from the rear and sides, so you're going to be taking a lot of heat.

Neither one is really my flavor, though good points have been made for both sides.

[Mechwarrior Of Rock]

Lazer Blazer, on 09 June 2012 - 04:23 AM, said:

built to be shot at.

That is why the Atlas is the one i think would win. It is really the only Mech I can think of that can stand still and take a beating. But really it all go's down to this one simple thing... Who's the better pilot?

Edited by Captain Wolfus Maximus, 11 June 2012 - 08:28 PM.