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[XxSaberxX]

Hi. I recently watched a Raven shooting a LRM 10 one missile at a time in quick succession, instead of one bunch of them together. Wondering how we can do that??

[Koniving]

To that, I present to you the first Raven to do that in MWO.


Put an LRM rack into the left arm of the Raven 3-L.

You can do this with any mech that comes stock with a "NARC" launcher, as the launcher has a single missile tube.

Edited by Koniving, 25 June 2013 - 04:08 PM.

[A Man In A Can]

Except the Stalker 5M which I've found the Narc launcher disappears if you don't have Narc installed on it. There are a few combos which it does appear and doesn't appear but it is for certain not fixed to the chassis anymore.

So beware the 5 missile launcher stalker of DOOM.

Edited by CYBRN4CR, 25 June 2013 - 04:23 PM.

[FireSlade]

LRMs and SRMs fire based on the number of tubes available; so if you are using a mech with 1,4,5,10 etc slots available for the missile hardpoints it and you have a missile launcher that has more missiles than the number of tubes it "streams" them to fire them. Back when missiles had more impulse (cockpit shake) it was desirable to have a constant barrage of missiles hitting the enemy. Now that it is so hard to keep a lock and have them all hit you want to have them all hit in one massive group rather than risk some missing and doing less damage. But yes as Koniving mentioned any mech that uses Narcs in the stock design has a single tube. I do think that streaming missile launches looks incredible and wish PGI would adjust how they fire to be more like this:One of Punakettu's works of art and possibly my favorite Timberwolf image.

Edited by FireSlade, 25 June 2013 - 04:39 PM.

[Dude42]

Just be aware a single AMS anywhere on the map renders the one at a time launcher completely harmless.

[Ragnar Darkmane]

CYBRN4CR, on 25 June 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

Except the Stalker 5M which I've found the Narc launcher disappears if you don't have Narc installed on it. There are a few combos which it does appear and doesn't appear but it is for certain not fixed to the chassis anymore.

So beware the 5 missile launcher stalker of DOOM.

Hm, I don't have any problems with my 5M. Mounted a single LRM5 and 3 double heatsinks in each ST and both LRM 5s fire simultaneously (that's the max the STs can fire anyway, they only got 6 tubes)...
Never install a second LRM launcher in the NARC Side Torso or you'll hate yourself for it.

Edited by Ragnar Darkmane, 25 June 2013 - 04:41 PM.

[Liquid Leopard]

XxSaberxX, on 25 June 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Hi. I recently watched a Raven shooting a LRM 10 one missile at a time in quick succession, instead of one bunch of them together. Wondering how we can do that??

You don't want to do that. If the missiles trickle out like that, AMS has more time to deal with them all. A single AMS could shoot down the whole salvo. If someone walks near the target with ECM or the target ducks behind cover, and you've still got missiles trickling out, those missiles are going to waste.

[B0oN]

The Raven with the LRM/SRM machinegun is just for hilariosity, so it´s all ok regarding the lols to be had with it ^^

[Koniving]

Dude42, on 25 June 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

Just be aware a single AMS anywhere on the map renders the one at a time launcher completely harmless.

This is true, but there is truly no faster way to drain an enemy's AMS completely dry before the real LRM boats fire. Even better if you fire the streams of single LRMs into a cluster of enemies and watch all their AMS's go off trying to shoot down 1... 1....1...1...1... at the same firing rate they would expend on over 90 missiles being fired at them at once. Believe me 1,000 bullets of AMS ammo drains very quickly shooting them down and once that's done they're empty and without AMS.

That's when you follow up with the 6 LRM-15 ROFLPULT.

[Edson Drake]

Now that's the way missiles should launch, only faster and straight-forward launched.

[Dude42]

Koniving, on 25 June 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

This is true, but there is truly no faster way to drain an enemy's AMS completely dry before the real LRM boats fire. Even better if you fire the streams of single LRMs into a cluster of enemies and watch all their AMS's go off trying to shoot down 1... 1....1...1...1... at the same firing rate they would expend on over 90 missiles being fired at them at once. Believe me 1,000 bullets of AMS ammo drains very quickly shooting them down and once that's done they're empty and without AMS.

That's when you follow up with the 6 LRM-15 ROFLPULT.

I suppose that might be a valid strategy in a premade, I doubt it, but I can see where the idea comes from at least, in theory. I would not recommend it for PUGs. At all.

Edit: Looked cool back then tho.

Edited by Dude42, 25 June 2013 - 05:29 PM.

[zztophat]

I put an LRM 20 in the narc tube of a treb, needless to say it was as hilarious as it was useless.

[Avimimus]

Dude42, on 25 June 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

Just be aware a single AMS anywhere on the map renders the one at a time launcher completely harmless.

But isn't this also the most effective way to use up the ammunition of an AMS system?

[Dude42]

Avimimus, on 25 June 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

But isn't this also the most effective way to use up the ammunition of an AMS system?

See my reply to Koniving.

[GingerBang]

Dude42, on 25 June 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

Just be aware a single AMS anywhere on the map renders the one at a time launcher completely harmless.

Not totally true, one of my favorite moves is to fire a line of single tube 10's across the horizon, and see where the enemy AMS starts shooting from. Highly effective!

[Victor Morson]

I jam an LRM/5 on a single port sometimes with other weapons, because it only slows the recycle to that of an LRM/10. Slight damage loss but if you want to confuse AMS it seems to do.. something. I've been trying to figure out what exactly the interaction is, but I get way more damage when I'm leading with these single LRMs than in big clusters.

[scJazz]

I'm convinced with no way to prove it that chain firing reasonably sized salvos is the best way to go. It makes the missile spread smaller from what I can tell. So I launch 2 LRM 15s in chain from 15 tube launchers.