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[Skyfaller]

List of mechs designed by the Capellan Confed/House Liao.

Add Mechs to the list if you know them.

Those in MWO:

Raven
Cataphract

[Strum Wealh]

Well, here is a list of the 'Mechs that are (or will be) constructed within the CapCon.

Granted, it's not the same as the design originating from within the CapCon, but it is arguably a good starting point for the list you're looking to construct.

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Skyfaller, on 26 June 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

Raven
Cataphract

Right now, that's the whole list. Designing new mech designs doesn't really ramp up until the Clan Invasion gets underway.

[Adridos]

Our mechs in MW:O?

Raven, Flea, Catapult, Cataphract, Thunderbolt and Highlander (this one is through a mistake, but CGL has yet to step in to correct it, so... ).

Edited by Adridos, 27 June 2013 - 01:34 AM.

[Kifferson von doober]

what about the blackjack? you not counting st ives?

[Adridos]

Kifferson von doober, on 27 June 2013 - 01:38 AM, said:

what about the blackjack? you not counting st ives?

Counting St.Ives would be unfair to them, but if I were to, then add Blackjacks and Victors to the list.

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Adridos, on 27 June 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

Our mechs in MW:O?

Raven, Flea, Catapult, Cataphract, Thunderbolt and Highlander (this one is through a mistake, but CGL has yet to step in to correct it, so... ).

There was a Quickdraw drawing with a Liao logo on it, too.

The Catapult is technically extinct in 3050. It's common-ish in Liao and Marik space, but all of the remaining Catapults are sustained on dwindling original parts (which are a common raid objective) or jury-rigs. It's a fire-support mech that's insanely difficult to pin down by Fourth Succession Wars standards, so there are a lot of them still left by 3050.

The Flea is sort of Capellan. It's a Wolf's Dragoons revival of a Star League mech, and the Capellans steal the blueprints in the 3040s. This is actually a retcon, to explain why Capcon has Fleas in Mechcommander.

The Cataphract is sort of a Capellan design. The 1X was designed in the Capcon, but never produced beyond the prototype stage because the factory where it was being built was captured by the Davions. The 1X and 2X never see any widespread deployment, and the 4X is a Davion design. The only common variant is the 3D and that's the Davion version; the Liao production Cataphract is the 3L, which isn't in MWO because it uses MASC (and has very little to distinguish it from the 1X).

The Thunderbolt doesn't belong to any particular faction. It's one of the oldest mech designs and it's still in production all over the place even into the Succession Wars, so pretty much everyone uses it.

The Highlander is a signature Comstar mech. It's a Star League design, so any faction could have a few still in service, but it's particularly a Comstar design. The only other significant users are the Northwind Highlanders, which (at this point) are working for House Davion against the Capcon in return for a permanent home on Northwind.

The Blackjack is kind of a Capellan mech. It's only currently produced in the Federated Commonwealth, but there are a lot of them in Capcon space since it's a Star League garrison design. Most of them are still intact because Capellans mostly think it's a terrible suicide sled that's only fit for guard duty. The BJ-3s are mostly refits, since that variant was a testbed DHS design.

Edited by Zharot, 27 June 2013 - 01:53 AM.

[Adridos]

Zharot, on 27 June 2013 - 01:52 AM, said:

There was a Quickdraw drawing with a Liao logo on it, too.

The Thunderbolt doesn't belong to any particular faction. It's one of the oldest mech designs and it's still in production all over the place even into the Succession Wars, so pretty much everyone uses it.

The Highlander is a signature Comstar mech. It's a Star League design, so any faction could have a few still in service, but it's particularly a Comstar design. The only other significant users are the Northwind Highlanders, which (at this point) are working for House Davion against the Capcon in return for a permanent home on Northwind.

As far as Quickdraw goes, it's not a Capellan design.

Thunderbolt is IS wide design, but it was originally designed by CapCon.

And as I said, neither house technically uses Highlanders, but due to an errata in TRO: 3039, we have a factory for them.

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Adridos, on 27 June 2013 - 02:16 AM, said:

Thunderbolt is IS wide design, but it was originally designed by CapCon.

All of the modern designs were designed in the FWL and produced there. I had forgotten that one of the XTROs retconned it to be one of Capcon's primitive-tech designs.

LoveLost85, on 27 June 2013 - 06:27 AM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lao_Hu
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sha_Yu
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Emperor
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Duan_Gung
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tian-zong

Except for the Emperor, which is a Star League design, and the Tian-zong, which is a Dark Age Capellan design, these are all Capellan-designed mechs from the 3060s. The Emperor does get retooled as a 3060s Capellan mech: the Yu Huang.

The 3060s are all about the Fedcom Civil War. The storyline in the south is Capcon sees a resurgence while the FWL is busy tearing itself apart and the Steiners and Davions are busy trying to depose each other. Part of this resurgence is a bunch of new Capellan mechs.

[Stormwolf]

Adridos, on 27 June 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

Our mechs in MW:O?

Raven, Flea, Catapult, Cataphract, Thunderbolt and Highlander (this one is through a mistake, but CGL has yet to step in to correct it, so... ).

Well actually:
The Flea was originally a FWL design in the SL era, it was later introduced again by Wolf's Dragoons.
The Thunderbolt is a general design.
The Catapult was a design for the Terran Hegemony that later found its way to the CC and DC.
The Highlander was a SLDF design, the CC has them, but I recon that the DC has the most after the War of 3039

[Adridos]

Stormwolf, on 27 June 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

The Flea was originally a FWL design in the SL era, it was later introduced again by Wolf's Dragoons.
The Thunderbolt is a general design.
The Catapult was a design for the Terran Hegemony that later found its way to the CC and DC.
The Highlander was a SLDF design, the CC has them, but I recon that the DC has the most after the War of 3039

I know, but I took liberties with teh OP's "designed by" to accomondate even mechs that are associated with the house.

As far as Thunderbolt goes: "As Rezende finalized his agreement with Chancellor Hendrik, Earthwerks built a ’Mech assembly factory on Tikonov and absorbed the Kanayeva Design Bureau (which had created numerous military vehicle designs for the Confederation’s nationalized factories). The company’s first BattleMech, the Thunderbolt, reached prototype stage in record time, and after a similarly brief testing and evaluation phase quickly transitioned into full production."

It is designed by us, it was just so good SL made it it's premier heavy and as such, the mech went in all directions.

Also, did you know Overlord and Union are Capellan designs? Many people are using OUR designs without even knowing, funny, isn't it?

[Strum Wealh]

Also, the Blackjack is actually a FedSuns design - designed and produced by General Motors, with production likely being centered around New Valencia and Talcott.

Though, it would be unsurprising that the CCAF managed to get their hands on a few during the three centuries of the Succession Wars.

[Adridos]

Strum Wealh, on 27 June 2013 - 11:02 AM, said:

Also, the Blackjack is actually a FedSuns design - designed and produced by General Motors, with production likely being centered around New Valencia and Talcott.

St.Ives's producing the BJ-3s, though.

Altough I won't argue about it's origin.

[Stormwolf]

Adridos, on 27 June 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

Also, did you know Overlord and Union are Capellan designs? Many people are using OUR designs without even knowing, funny, isn't it?

Where is this mentioned?

I don't recall ever reading who originally designed the Overlord and Union, the TRO entries never mention it. I always assumed that it was the Star League since the Union-C mentions the Star League union Class in TRO3057. Futhermore the Dictator fluff mentions that the SLDF phased out the Dictator in favor of the Overlord (though the text doesn't point to it being it a SLDF design).

[Adridos]

Stormwolf, on 27 June 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

Where is this mentioned?

Handbook: House Liao, p.24, 'Timeline: The Age of War and the Star League':

"2430-40: “Sir” Stephen launches military reforms, including a project that will culminate in Union and Overlord DropShips. The Confederation military rebounds to a more professional and capable force."

The "Sir Stephen" the quote is reffering to is the Chancellor Stephen Liao who died long before the Star League was assembled.

[Stormwolf]

Adridos, on 27 June 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Handbook: House Liao, p.24, 'Timeline: The Age of War and the Star League':

"2430-40: “Sir” Stephen launches military reforms, including a project that will culminate in Union and Overlord DropShips. The Confederation military rebounds to a more professional and capable force."

The "Sir Stephen" the quote is reffering to is the Chancellor Stephen Liao who died long before the Star League was assembled.

I didn't know this, thanks for the info, they should have really bothered to point this out in TRO3057 though.

Edited by Stormwolf, 27 June 2013 - 11:52 AM.

[Hayden]

The Locust is also produced on Ares. Boy that feels good to say!

[capmerc]

why do you need anything else raven,cataphract,catapult ,and victor assault mech what else do you need? warhammer or marauder heavy, assault mech charger with xl engine anyone?

[Kanatta Jing]

Warhammer and Marauder have troubles.

But pretty much everything in the Project Phoenix package is in common usage in the Liao hanger.

Also the Flea.