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[Request] Noob Guide To Factions, And Their Mechwarrior.

Started by BlackIronTarkus, Jun 29 2013 11:32 AM

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#1 BlackIronTarkus

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:32 AM

Hello!

Im looking for a guide about faction and what mech's are produced by said factions. If one day faction really matters and being in a specific faction influance what mech you can or cannot get I want to make sure I choosed the right one!

Thanks!

#2 Ragnar Darkmane

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 11:56 AM

View PostBlackIronTarkus, on 29 June 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Hello!

Im looking for a guide about faction and what mech's are produced by said factions. If one day faction really matters and being in a specific faction influance what mech you can or cannot get I want to make sure I choosed the right one!

Thanks!

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Factions is all what you need to find out.
To make it short: Choose Kurita, they are the coolest and have the most awesome mechs EVAR. Plus: We got hot Asian chicks in huge numbers.

Edited by Ragnar Darkmane, 29 June 2013 - 11:56 AM.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:47 PM

View PostRagnar Darkmane, on 29 June 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Factions is all what you need to find out.
To make it short: Choose Kurita, they are the coolest and have the most awesome mechs EVAR. Plus: We got hot Asian chicks in huge numbers.


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Too much informations... basicly what I want to know is what mech are belong to which faction. Like the cataphract is davion if im not mistaken, and the dragon is obviously kurita. What else?

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:27 PM

Sarna's BattleMech portal has nice lists for all the available battlemechs, such as:

Mechs made in the Capellan Confederation
Mechs made in the Draconis Combine
Mechs made in the Federated Suns
Mechs made in the Free Rasalhague Republic
Mechs made in the Free Worlds League
Mechs made in the Lyran Commonwealth

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:21 PM

View PostMr Friday, on 29 June 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Sarna's BattleMech portal has nice lists for all the available battlemechs, such as:

Mechs made in the Capellan Confederation
Mechs made in the Draconis Combine
Mechs made in the Federated Suns
Mechs made in the Free Rasalhague Republic
Mechs made in the Free Worlds League
Mechs made in the Lyran Commonwealth



Funny thing : Hunchback is nowhere to be found in those lists.... LosTech ? Obsolete ?

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 06:53 PM

There are also many mech which are "inner sphere general", mechs produced is such large quantities that every faction has them somewhere. Hunchback/Catapault/Stalker/Awesome can be found in any state's armies.

http://www.sarna.net...ral_BattleMechs

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 03:02 AM

View PostTeh Hobo, on 29 June 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

There are also many mech which are "inner sphere general", mechs produced is such large quantities that every faction has them somewhere. Hunchback/Catapault/Stalker/Awesome can be found in any state's armies.

http://www.sarna.net...ral_BattleMechs


I forgot which book set this stuff up, but there's literally a list of which factories are on which worlds somewhere out there, leading to some general 'mechs being more common in other armies than some. That and salvage.

There's a lot of misinformation outside of Sarna on this stuff too. So many people think the Victor is a Davion 'mech because it was Davion designed, but the Combine conquered all the worlds with the factories. Also it was named several hundred years before that white hat Victor Davion showed up. (I hate Victor Davion so much. My name is no relation.)

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 03:14 AM

Thank you so much for the general page, I was stuck thinking that I should only use Blackjacks, Ravens and Cataphracts at the moment!

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 03:41 AM

View PostDuSucre, on 29 June 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:



Funny thing : Hunchback is nowhere to be found in those lists.... LosTech ? Obsolete ?

... Made from kits in every backyard mechlab? <_<

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 05:43 AM

View PostBlackIronTarkus, on 29 June 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Hello!

Im looking for a guide about faction and what mech's are produced by said factions. If one day faction really matters and being in a specific faction influance what mech you can or cannot get I want to make sure I choosed the right one!

Thanks!

Greetings.

There is such detailed guide. But it is in russian language.
Guide is based on technical readouts, and matches current timeline. Sarna.net gives info for 3067.

If there is enough need for translation, i could try..

Edited by Sigmar Sich, 30 June 2013 - 05:45 AM.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 05:51 AM

View PostSigmar Sich, on 30 June 2013 - 05:43 AM, said:

Greetings.

There is such detailed guide. But it is in russian language.
Guide is based on technical readouts, and matches current timeline. Sarna.net gives info for 3067.

If there is enough need for translation, i could try..


Yes please, this seems to be exactly what I need. Like many people I dont speak russian so Im pretty sure your guide would be useful to the broader english audiance. (I speak french, but english is universal)

#12 Sigmar Sich

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 06:22 AM

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Yes please, this seems to be exactly what I need.

Ok, will start translation.

For start, here is tables from BattleTech 10979 - Combat Operations, list of mechs ever used by faction. Not much to translate here)
Year near mech model means era, when mech start in service.
* - announced mechs, unknown which models are playable
** - not playable models, but they can be built in mechlab
*** - not playable models, can not be built in mechlab

This list shows what mechs are used by factions, but not showing how massively. That info is in other parts in guide, but i need time to translate them +- correctly.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:40 AM

Wow, thanks for the translation!

That being said as I can see, all faction use all type of mechs. The only thing they dont share are a few exeptions(dragons?) and some variants.

Im disapointed I have to admit. I hoped faction had more of a personnality to them.

#14 Sigmar Sich

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:15 AM

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I hoped faction had more of a personnality to them.

They are. It is just list of mechs ever used. For example Commando - very few by Davions, massively by Steiner; - but they both using it. Such details will come soon.

For now, another tables, from BattleTech 35014 - Historical - War of 3039. It is 11 years before "now", so it is not include some new models like Raven-3L or Awesome-9M. But it shows how popular some models are in factions.
Numbers like 2/33 means percent, "this model" / "total number mechs in weight class".

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:49 AM

View PostVictor Morson, on 30 June 2013 - 03:02 AM, said:

So many people think the Victor is a Davion 'mech because it was Davion designed, but the Combine conquered all the worlds with the factories.


Point of order: The Combine conquered Quentin, but only in 3039, and the Davions were at the time allied with the St. Ives Compact, who sold them Victors from the HildCo factory on St. Ives. They also rebuilt the Tao MechWorks line on Styk at some point, and would ultimately build another on New Valencia after losing both St. Ives and Styk to the Capellans. So the Davions have historically had access to the Victor, and did so in 3050.

Also, it wasn't "Davion designed", being initially produced by HildCo for the Terran Hegemony and later the Star League.

This concludes your BattleTech Nerd Moment. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. :)

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 07:17 AM

View PostZerberus, on 30 June 2013 - 03:41 AM, said:

... Made from kits in every backyard mechlab? :D

It does kinda seem like a ******* mech.

Well Jimbo, we found a really big barrel and we gonna mount it on this broken down Shadow Hawk chassis we found.

Is it gonna go fast?

Who needs it to go fast when you got da boom?

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 12:03 PM

So, here is brief overview. Will mention only main factions, without Periphery and mercs.

Flea
Used by Capellan Confederation (FLE-17). Very rare in other armies (FLE-4, FLE-15). Old model (FLE-4, FLE-15) possibly used by Free Worlds League in small numbers.

Locust
Massively used by all (LCT-1V, LCT-1Е). Some faction models: Steiner LCT-1S, LCT-3S; Davion LCT-1М, LCT-3D; Marik LCT-3М.

Commando
Used by Lyran Commonwealth.
Minor users - Free Rasalhague Republic and Federated Suns.

Spider
Used by Free Worlds League (SDR-5V) and Drakonis Combine (SDR-5K). Minor users - all others. Another faction model - SDR-5D by Federated Suns.

Jenner
Used by Drakonis Combine. Trophy mechs in small numbers used by all others, mostly by Federated Suns.

Raven
Used by Capellan Confederation (RVN-3L, RVN-4X). Trophy mechs used by Federated Suns in large numbers (RVN-2X).

Cicada
Used by Free Worlds League. Old models (CDA-2A, 2B, 3C) in small numbers used by others.

Blackjack
Used by Federated Suns; in lesser numbers - by Capellan Confederation (St. Ives Compact mostly).

Hunchback
Used by all. Free Worlds League has majority.

Centurion
Used by Federated Suns. Minor user - Lyran Commonwealth.

Trebuchet
Used by Free Worlds League. Minor user - Drakonis Combine (TBT-7К)

Shadow Hawk
Used by all. New models produced by Free Worlds League.

Dragon
Used by Drakonis Combine. Minor user - Free Rasalhague Republic. Trophy mechs used by Lyran Commonwealth, Federated Suns, mercs.

Quickdraw
Used by Free Worlds League and Drakonis Combine (QKD-5К). Minor users - Lyran Commonwealth, in lesser numbers - Federated Suns.

Catapult
Used by Capellan Confederation, in lesser numbers by Drakonis Combine (CPLT-K2).

JagerMech
Used by Federated Suns (all models). Minor user - Drakonis Combine (JM6-S, JM6-DD), Capellan Confederation (JM6-S).

Thunderbolt
Used by Free Worlds League (TDR-5S, TDR-7М) and Lyran Commonwealth (TDR-5S, TDR-5SS, TDR-9S). In lesser numbers - by all others.

Cataphract
Used by Capellan Confederation (CTF-1X, CTF-2X). Minor users - Federated Suns(CTF-3D, CTF-4X), in lesser numbers Lyran Commonwealth (CTF-3D).

Orion
Used by Free Worlds League. Minor users - all others.

Awesome
Used by all. Free Worlds League has majority.

Victor
Used by Federated Suns, in lesser numbers - by Lyran Commonwealth and Drakonis Combine. Minor users - all other. Some faction models - Davion VTR-9D; Steiner VTR-9S; Kurita VTR-9K.

BattleMaster
Used in small numbers by Lyran Commonwealth, Free Worlds League and Federated Suns. In lesser numbers - by others.
Some faction models - Steiner BLR-1S, BLR-3S; Marik BLR-3М; Davion BLR-1D; Kurita BLR-2С.

Stalker
Used by all. Free Worlds Legue and Lyran Commonwealth has majority. Faction models - Steiner STK-5S; Marik STK-5M.

Highlander
Used by Drakonis Combine, in lesser numbers - by Lyran Commonwealth and Capellan Confederation.

Atlas
Used by all. Some faction models - Steiner AS7-D-DC; Kurita AS7-K.

For more details better see BattleTech 35121 - Technical Readout 3039 for Inner Sphere mechs; and BattleTech 8614 - Technical Readout 3050 for Clan mechs and new Inner Sphere models.

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 11:34 AM

View PostVictor Morson, on 30 June 2013 - 03:02 AM, said:


I forgot which book set this stuff up, but there's literally a list of which factories are on which worlds somewhere out there, leading to some general 'mechs being more common in other armies than some. That and salvage.

There's a lot of misinformation outside of Sarna on this stuff too. So many people think the Victor is a Davion 'mech because it was Davion designed, but the Combine conquered all the worlds with the factories. Also it was named several hundred years before that white hat Victor Davion showed up. (I hate Victor Davion so much. My name is no relation.)


I believe you are thinking of the 'Objective Raids' sourcebook.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 06:47 PM

Each of you are amazing sources of information. I'm new to a majority of MW deeper cannon (outside of a few books read long ago). Can anyone direct me to faction specific reading and or forum? Cheers

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 08:49 PM

This is something I threw together for kicks not too long ago but cannot guarantee it's accuracy or completion. From the looks of it, the previous list is very very accurate. The source I used was probably in the 3050-3055 era as it took the Steiner/Davion alliance into account.

https://docs.google....cnc&usp=sharing

Edited by Kin3ticX, 25 March 2014 - 08:50 PM.

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