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[A banana in the tailpipe]

June started great with much needed fixes to poptarting, but ignored the massively glaring issues of heat and convergence. Now we're right back to "boat or go home" making pug matches unbearable unless I too want to bring my own "cheese build".

Sorry but running the same AC boats bored me to tears months ago, and everything else is so laughingly underpowered I can't simply "have fun" building whatever old mechs anymore. A hard line in the sand has been drawn on effectiveness and EVERY, yes EVERY match being a steamroll one way or the other is exposing it for the ugly unfinished product MWO is.

Populations are shrinking, content is recycling instead of evolving, and its time for another month break to let them sort this mess out. So far PGI has managed to not suck a total of 2 months this year. Thank god we're not paying for this.

[superteds]

when i see threads like this, i don't even need to check the calender

sunday!

[WolvesX]

Why so negative?

[Angel of Annihilation]

My ranking....8/10. Definantely have seen some major improvements and now finally for the first time in a long time I am throughly enjoying the game.

Don't get me wrong there definately are a few things that need so work but overall balance is decent and gameplay is alot of fun.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

For weapon/equip balance?

Yep, they definately deserve a 1.8/10.


Let me know when they finally get Mgun,flamers,heatscale, and LBX's working right. So...another good 8 months? I'm sure that should be enough time for PGI. Its been 1 year and so far the machine gun is only halfway there. Another year from now and the Mgun might be barely viable.

Edited by mwhighlander, 30 June 2013 - 05:49 PM.

[Kaspirikay]

3.142/11.341

[FupDup]

I'd give them a -4523543264365 out of 9000.

[Papaspud]

I agree with the OP, the games are so boring now... hard to convince myself I'm having fun. The high alpha meta makes the game nothing but hide snipe rinse and repeat. A few lights here and there , a few LRMs, but if you don't go big... might as well not play.

Being a mostly light or small medium pilot, some games you do well, next game some one gets 1 shot on you-game over= no fun. Sorry, but the hide and snipe meta is just flat out boring. If I want to hide and snipe I will play BF. There really is no flow anymore, just a bunch of camping because first person to stick their head up gets 10 PPCs and 4 Gausses to the face. I really want to have a reason to buy the Phoenix pack, but I really doubt I will be playing this game come Oct. unless they do something, and I have no clue what will fix this problem, and I noticed about 1/2 or better of my clan no longer plays- with more quitting all the time.

Hope some sort of balance is found or this game wont make it until the clan stuff is coming out. \

just my 2 cents worth

[Aym]

lockwoodx, on 30 June 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

June started great with much needed fixes to poptarting, but ignored the massively glaring issues of heat and convergence. Now we're right back to "boat or go home" making pug matches unbearable unless I too want to bring my own "cheese build".

Sorry but running the same AC boats bored me to tears months ago, and everything else is so laughingly underpowered I can't simply "have fun" building whatever old mechs anymore. A hard line in the sand has been drawn on effectiveness and EVERY, yes EVERY match being a steamroll one way or the other is exposing it for the ugly unfinished product MWO is.

Populations are shrinking, content is recycling instead of evolving, and its time for another month break to let them sort this mess out. So far PGI has managed to not suck a total of 2 months this year. Thank god we're not paying for this.

LOL.
I've rediscoverd a love of my Founder's Atlas in solo dropping as a pug. It's such a boat, 2 Large Lasers, 2 SRM4's, 2 Mlas and the oddly placed AC20. I mean, yeah, I'm wildly abusing convergence with my arm mounted LLas and I HATE when the awful convergence system causes them to cross up and miss that little Jenny or Raven I'm shooting.

TL:DR your perceptions are your own, but your claims are not supported by fact.

[Angel of Annihilation]

mwhighlander, on 30 June 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

For weapon/equip balance?

Yep, they definately deserve a 1.8/10.


Let me know when they finally get Mgun,flamers,heatscale, and LBX's working right. So...another good 8 months? I'm sure that should be enough time for PGI. Its been 1 year and so far the machine gun is only halfway there. Another year from now and the Mgun might be barely viable.

All your issues are based on your opinion. MGs seem fine right now considering they aren't even suppose to be an Anti-mech weapon. Flamers have always been of limited use even in lore. Heatscale isn't too bad although I still think DHS should be at least 1.6, not 1.4 heat disapation and the LBX is fine as a extremely short range shot gun type weapon (though I would love to see them implement the dual ammo feature).

Aym, on 30 June 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

LOL.
I've rediscoverd a love of my Founder's Atlas in solo dropping as a pug. It's such a boat, 2 Large Lasers, 2 SRM4's, 2 Mlas and the oddly placed AC20. I mean, yeah, I'm wildly abusing convergence with my arm mounted LLas and I HATE when the awful convergence system causes them to cross up and miss that little Jenny or Raven I'm shooting.

TL:DR your perceptions are your own, but your claims are not supported by fact.

yeah, I run into the same issue on my PPC mounted QD. I can't count the times my PPCs converge all screwy like at close range. Seems like the sight is calibrated for them to meet at around 500m (which makes sense) and the closer a target gets the more off my sights are.

[Deathlike]

3/10

3 is a magic #

It's been 3 months since the meta changed to favor PPC...

MG would probably need a 3rd tweak (COF reduction or removal) before they are viable.

LRM changes were recent and seem OK
Most other crap weapons are still crap.
SRMs are still in a crippled state.


3 PPC limit will be the "new meta".

3 more months til the beta tag is released.

3 more months of the "new meta", because the fix does very little to the current one.

There, I summed it up in like 3 minutes.

Edited by Deathlike, 30 June 2013 - 06:31 PM.

[FupDup]

Deathlike, on 30 June 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

3 PPC limit will be the "new meta".

Or possibly even 2 PPC + 2 ERPPC, depending on how utterly stupid PGI's handling of this is.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

FupDup, on 30 June 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

Or possibly even 2 PPC + 2 ERPPC, depending on how utterly stupid PGI's handling of this is.

General Trend dictates that the feature will

1) Be broken on arrival
2) Not be present at all. (possibly delayed by X months)

[FupDup]

mwhighlander, on 30 June 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

General Trend dictates that the feature will

1) Be broken on arrival
2) Not be present at all. (possibly delayed by X months)

And there's also the upcoming 2 Gauss + 2 PPC Victor that will have the armor and tonnage to handle it.

I for one welcome our new Victor overlords...

Edited by FupDup, 30 June 2013 - 07:46 PM.

[Corvus Antaka]

once ppc/pinpoint dmg is counterbalanced we should be fine. yes, it sucks waiting so long.

[subgenius]

FupDup, on 30 June 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

Or possibly even 2 PPC + 2 ERPPC, depending on how utterly stupid PGI's handling of this is.

Yep, you don't even know how the feature will work and you're already complaining. Classy.

[MustrumRidcully]

Deathlike, on 30 June 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

3/10 3 is a magic # It's been 3 months since the meta changed to favor PPC... MG would probably need a 3rd tweak (COF reduction or removal) before they are viable. LRM changes were recent and seem OK Most other crap weapons are still crap. SRMs are still in a crippled state. 3 PPC limit will be the "new meta". 3 more months til the beta tag is released. 3 more months of the "new meta", because the fix does very little to the current one. There, I summed it up in like 3 minutes.

Can you condense this to 3 paragraphs?

[jakucha]

subgenius, on 30 June 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

Yep, you don't even know how the feature will work and you're already complaining. Classy.

It's the way of mwo forums with the many armchair devs.

[GODzillaGSPB]

FupDup, on 30 June 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

And there's also the upcoming 2 Gauss + 2 PPC Victor that will have the armor and tonnage to handle it.

I for one welcome our new Victor overlords...

The only good news is that both projectiles don't travel with the same speed, so an alpha on a moving target is not really an option. The peek & alpha gameplay however will be alive and kicking.

[Ralgas]

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