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[RainbowToh]

We should have core breaches, and then there will be a nuclear explosion that will take out EVERYBODY on the map cus thats how powerful such an explosion will be. A dozen kg of nuclear material is enough to take out a city. That is my condition if those folks that want a beautiful fusion explosion in the game. <insert sarcasm>

http://youtu.be/76OyiN_aYZ8


Cheers

Edited by RainbowToh, 09 June 2012 - 07:40 PM.

[Kazzamo]

Look at it this way... if mechs blew up like that then why on Terra would /any/ nation station these nuclear missiles with legs in populated cities?

[Teralitha]

Kazzamo, on 09 June 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

Even a light mech in some of those games in the past where (sadly) mechs do go critical they could do some decent damage to the legs of even assault mechs. And people suicide all the time in games... I can see people that join games with the cheapest light mech, get it to go boom, join another match with another cheap mech, repeat.

If they did that, Unlikely (or more like, wont happen), but if they did... their reward is no exp, no cbill, and a repair bill. They would learn pretty quick its not a good idea.

[Freyar]

Kazzamo, on 09 June 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

Look at it this way... if mechs blew up like that then why on Terra would /any/ nation station these nuclear missiles with legs in populated cities?

Because Fiction. [/stillirrational]

[Tterrag]

It would be an interesting aspect if you could specifically target the location of each individual mechs core to allow for a splash damage like move for clumps of enemy mech or that lance member you don't like

Edited by Tterrag, 09 June 2012 - 07:47 PM.

[Teralitha]

RainbowToh, on 09 June 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

We should have core breaches, and then there will be a nuclear explosion that will take out EVERYBODY on the map cus thats how powerful such an explosion will be. A dozen kg of nuclear material is enough to take out a city. That is my condition if those folks that want a beautiful fusion explosion in the game. <insert sarcasm>

http://youtu.be/76OyiN_aYZ8


Cheers

Do you have a problem with people LIKING big explosions? Or do you prefer.. shoot enemy mech... (small puff of smoke) enemy mech falls over, or even just sits there like a statue,( or just vanishes to the compost) is that fun for you? Why would you even want to play this game.

Edited by Teralitha, 09 June 2012 - 07:46 PM.

[Kazzamo]

Teralitha, on 09 June 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

If they did that, Unlikely (or more like, wont happen), but if they did... their reward is no exp, no cbill, and a repair bill. They would learn pretty quick its not a good idea.

Can't be for sure on that honestly. To make the highly overdone WoT example sui-scouting is very popular there. Find the enemy, blow up, move to the next match. In MWO it's not all about damage. Spotting the enemy here does get you money and XP. If you're using the cheapest light mech someone might be able to make a gain doing this.

[Clay Pigeon]

This isn't star trek. Loss of containment should just cause a plasma leak for a split second, not a huge explosion.

Edited by Clay Pigeon, 09 June 2012 - 07:49 PM.

[Meth0s]

Mechs exploding looks 'prettier'/'flashier', but I don't think its necessary. In Btech it rarely happens, as it should be. Mostly mechs just become inoperational.

[Teralitha]

Kazzamo, on 09 June 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Can't be for sure on that honestly. To make the highly overdone WoT example sui-scouting is very popular there. Find the enemy, blow up, move to the next match. In MWO it's not all about damage. Spotting the enemy here does get you money and XP. If you're using the cheapest light mech someone might be able to make a gain doing this.

Dont know til we see the game. But Im sure the devs are smart enough to figure it out. I prefer to stay alive and win, get the full exp and cbills. Light suiciders will simply fall behind.... while I move on to buy new mechs/weapons, increase pilot stats(orwhatever you do with exp) and enjoy more of the game, while your light suiciders... well... waste their time..

Lets actually play the game before we get into this. I will raise hell on these forums if the game rewards that kind of thing I assure you.

[Faceless Priest]

cannon has stated before that fusion engines don't actually go critical.

[Kazzamo]

Faceless Priest, on 09 June 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:

cannon has stated before that fusion engines don't actually go critical.

That point has been made several times, and in past threads about this. Generally the people that support it/bring it up just don't care. They want their MechWarrior by Micheal Bay.

[Tincan Nightmare]

Teralitha, on 09 June 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

If they dont have mech explosions that do damage and heat to surrounding mechs in close proximity, I PROMISE you I will grief and abuse that aspect of the game maliciously with wild abandon til everyone I meet on the field cries to God to make it stop. You want griefing? I will give you griefing you stupid *** morons

Well the only moron is someone who says 'my way, my way, MY WAY, MY WAY' and then insults everyone else for demanding what they want like a 5 year old. And how will you abuse the lack of engine exposions, that should be pretty comical to watch.

Teralitha, on 09 June 2012 - 07:33 PM, said:

Did you ever play MW4? There was splashing. It was accepted as part of the game.

Do you really think everyone will be doing this on purpose in every game, every time? You know, I think everyone would rather try to survive and win the game. Suiciding is just a last ditch effort if you got nothing else left... and light mechs splash damage is pretty insignificant..

This in no way shape or form, ruins anyones fun. If anything... its funny.

I recall one game where I was duking it out with a madcat, in a couger, and he was critical, and I was nearly dead, his last alpha made him overheat and shut down. I had 1 weapon left, and I knew it wasnt enough to finish him off before he started up again, I ran up between his legs, fire one last shot to the crotch and suiciding, which killed him, game over, team won. it was worth it.

But you argue that the tactic you used won't happen if they include the mechanic to allow it?

Teralitha, on 09 June 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

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Do you have a problem with people LIKING big explosions? Or do you prefer.. shoot enemy mech... (small puff of smoke) enemy mech falls over, or even just sits there like a statue,( or just vanishes to the compost) is that fun for you? Why would you even want to play this game.

Actually shooting a mech and watching it crash to the ground in smoke and flames without some small hiroshima is perfectly fine with me. How is mechs going nuclear a requirement to enjoy the game? So the only way to enjoy the game is to see every mech destroyed blow up and devastate the area around them? Are you off your meds or just don't have any impulse control to threaten and insult people because they have a different view of what they wish to see in game, and think your opinion should trump all.

[Teralitha]

Tincan Nightmare, on 09 June 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

Actually shooting a mech and watching it crash to the ground in smoke and flames without some small hiroshima is perfectly fine with me. How is mechs going nuclear a requirement to enjoy the game? So the only way to enjoy the game is to see every mech destroyed blow up and devastate the area around them? Are you off your meds or just don't have any impulse control to threaten and insult people because they have a different view of what they wish to see in game, and think your opinion should trump all.

There is something wrong with you friend.... are you sure youre in the right forum? Cuz I thought this was Mechwarrior Online Forums...

[Groundstain]

Canon or not the fact is If you are standing next to something that goes BOOM you will take damage. Newtons 3rd law in action.

[Kazzamo]

Teralitha, on 09 June 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

There is something wrong with you friend.... are you sure youre in the right forum? Cuz I thought this was Mechwarrior Online Forums...

Honestly seeing a mech go nuke just kills the entire thing for some of us. Like I said... why would any nation use walking time bombs in populated areas or spend so much money on the equipment for them? The answer is they would not. They'd stick to more conventional tanks that don't do things like... level their own cities.

Groundstain, on 09 June 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

Canon or not the fact is If you are standing next to something that goes BOOM you will take damage. Newtons 3rd law in action.

The point is in canon they /don't/ go boom. Aside from ammo explosions which are an entirely different subject.

Edited by Kazzamo, 09 June 2012 - 08:14 PM.

[IceTitan]

Anyways in Btech lore, as in the core books etc, the engines don't go critical.. they just either burn themselves out and die, or get breached and are unable to create the plasma needed to run the mech.

And the mech itself does turn into a burning hot dog for a few seconds when it's breached but it's mostly just roasting itself on the outside, then again falling over like a statue. And in the tech manual they even have a special section specially dedicated to make it clear that engines do not go boom. The burn out when it breaches gives the impression, but yeah if a mech is point blank melee, then they'd get a heat spike, but that's pretty much it. But not enough to overheat a mech or even put a serious dent on the mechs heat range.

So no coring a mech does not make it go boom, does not kill the pilot, but does make them sweat a bit while the plasma super heats the air around the mech for a few seconds.

Edited by IceTitan, 09 June 2012 - 08:17 PM.

[Teralitha]

Kazzamo, on 09 June 2012 - 08:13 PM, said:

Honestly seeing a mech go nuke just kills the entire thing for some of us. Like I said... why would any nation use walking time bombs in populated areas or spend so much money on the equipment for them? The answer is they would not. They'd stick to more conventional tanks that don't do things like... level their own cities.




The point is in canon they /don't/ go boom. Aside from ammo explosions which are an entirely different subject.

Why do you keep making referrences to real life, dont play games if you prefer real life. This is a game. AND, this isnt classic BT, its an online mechwarrior game. You must have hated playing MW4, 3 2 1.. MA.. netmech... and so on... Go back to your table and dice.

Edited by Teralitha, 09 June 2012 - 08:18 PM.

[Tincan Nightmare]

Teralitha, on 09 June 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

There is something wrong with you friend.... are you sure youre in the right forum? Cuz I thought this was Mechwarrior Online Forums...

Did the orginal BT boxed set, or any of the MW games come with a mushroom cloud on the cover? I'm begining to think your in the wrong forum, if you equate explosions as a necessity to like a game. Mostly it sounds like you need to see a shrink.

[Kazzamo]

Teralitha, on 09 June 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

Why do you keep making referrences to real life, dont play games if you prefer real life. This is a game.

It's simple. The game is a mech sim. As in simulation. For that fact alone there should be at least some level of logic or reasonability to it. Most the weapons and such have their fluff text in canon to explain them and such. The game has its "science" even if fictional science already. Stick to it.