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[JimboFBX]

I 100% agree this needs to be tweaked. I tried out the new blackjack trial mech and found myself 95% up a tall hill and then suddenly unable to move. I was then whaled on as I couldn't figure out what direction to turn to make the peak. The 0% complete drop is unnatural feeling and not a good user experience. I would rather the mech has one last stair step they can take, as indicated by a slow exaggerated step, rather than a sudden drop to 0% speed.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Victor Morson, on 02 July 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

No, we're not. All of us veteran players are quite adept at map monkeying up hills even now, stupid as it is we have to do so. I can take any position I've ever had still, it's just some hoops to get there.

This system had the possibility to give mediums and such a massive edge - darting around the hills on Forest Colony in a manner way faster than slow assaults would be a great way to give the whole class a huge shot in the arm. Instead we have a bunch of invisible walls that the uninformed keep voting to keep because they think it'll somehow help them from getting murdered. (It won't.)



I'm still curious what this "over 30's" thing you keep bringing up is. Are you seriously suggesting that anyone over 30 can't understand game balance? I mean.. I think that's what you're saying, but if it is, holy crap. Your problems go way deeper than MechWarrior.

Or you're just a kid going through a 70s phase and finding out about the "Don't like trust anyone over 30, man!" line.

over 30's (in this community not all) like old people can’t adapt and overcome and are set in there ways. Again this is not TT. If you want to relive your TT days go on craigslist and set up a weakly TT game.

If a heavy can’t go over some things..... GOOD! Adapt and overcome like a real evolving person in a modern gaming world.


When you people type all I hear is the old guy sitting on his porch yelling at the kids to get off his side of the sidewalk and use the other one because they are interrupting you nap as you stare at the green grass you love and can’t take with you.

[Johnny Reb]

Easy to attempt to JJ over terrain, not make it and get stuck. No forward and JJ then are useless. So basically stuck in terrain.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 02 July 2013 - 11:41 PM.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Johnny Reb, on 02 July 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

Easy to attempt to JJ over terrain, not make it and get stuck. No forward and JJ then are useless. So basically stuck in terrain.

learn to use JJ. May I suggest training grounds?

[Johnny Reb]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 02 July 2013 - 11:31 PM, said:

learn to use JJ. May I suggest training grounds?

WHen they cut out before i finish my jump, yeah guess I need to learn when to use them and not have them cut out! Great suggestion! The result on a slop in canyon where everyone uses but I try a side and getting stuck is me not the map.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 02 July 2013 - 11:35 PM.

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Johnny Reb, on 02 July 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

WHen they cut out before i make my jump, yeah guess I need to learn when to use them and not have them cut out!

yes because thy are finite.

[Johnny Reb]

SO getting stuck and cant even go back down is fine cause?

Oh I know BALANCE?

Edited by Johnny Reb, 02 July 2013 - 11:38 PM.

[Victor Morson]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 02 July 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

over 30's (in this community not all) like old people can’t adapt and overcome and are set in there ways.

Is this your preemptive "oh so intelligent" reply to being called a noob kid? I'm guessing you're a kid because, really? This might take the new record for the dumbest catchphrase on not only MW:O, but the entire game.

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 02 July 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

Again this is not TT. If you want to relive your TT days go on craigslist and set up a weakly TT game.

If a heavy can’t go over some things..... GOOD! Adapt and overcome like a real evolving person in a modern gaming world.

You know what ? Screw people who want a 1:1 TT conversion. Labeling them everyone over 30 is the single dumbest thing ever, kid.

Because a lot of us have spent over a decade playing MechWarrior games and understand it is a different environment. More importantly, we've seen almost everything that has both worked and did not work in that time, including weapon balance in a sim environment.

Almost all of the problems with MW:O could have been avoided by taking that experience.

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 02 July 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

When you people type all I hear is the old guy sitting on his porch yelling at the kids to get off his side of the sidewalk and use the other one because they are interrupting you nap as you stare at the green grass you love and can’t take with you.

And all I'm hearing here is an annoying teenager that is going through the "I think I'm so damn clever!" phase with no interest in hearing experience or considering the possibility that only a small minority of people of different ages want TT 1:1 conversions.

Go write in your livejournal about how life is so unfair and how awesome you are or something, kid.

PS: You think we should evolve yet you are apparently proud to drive a 4X Raven. lol

Edited by Victor Morson, 02 July 2013 - 11:50 PM.

[Pet Dude]

The angle should be different or they will need to redo maps. 45 degree angle should logically not stop a legged vehicle. If threaded vehicles can make it legged vehicles should too. Also objects such as rocks should not impede your movement if they are a certain height. A large mech should be able to step over or on these.

[Victor Morson]

I like how the initial surge of NO votes are shifting to YES votes after people experience this abomination for long enough.

[Crimson Fenris]

They have to set a max speed limit, instead of a gradual deceleration, from 0% to max speed, accordingly to the slope angle.

This way, in the OP example, the mech would stop at the edge, then regain a bit of speed to contine its momentum because the slope angle is less steep.

That need to feel a realistic behavior of a machine climbing : when the slope is too steep, it stops after a while struggling, but as soon as the slope become softer, the movement must restart again slowly.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Victor Morson, on 02 July 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

PS: You think we should evolve yet you are apparently proud to drive a 4X Raven. lol

This alone proves you are 2 old for this game. It’s about fun. No matter what you pilot. The 4x is AWESOME and the most fun mech for me. But YOU go to e6 on alpine every time, the crater in the center of caustic. Your mindset is in stone and there is no room for growth. And if anyone wants it diffrently you drop a bantha poodoo in your depends.
Can’t fill a cup that is already full grasshoppa.

[Victor Morson]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 03 July 2013 - 01:43 AM, said:

This alone proves you are 2 old for this game. It’s about fun. No matter what you pilot. The 4x is AWESOME and the most fun mech for me. But YOU go to e6 on alpine every time, the crater in the center of caustic. Your mindset is in stone and there is no room for growth. And if anyone wants it diffrently you drop a bantha poodoo in your depends.
Can’t fill a cup that is already full grasshoppa.

I'd comment on how you make a lot of assumptions, but really, the things you are too dumb to be real.

I'm going to guess you are a well done gimmick/trolling account, probably an operative with everyone's favorite organization of trolling accounts. Masterful job at it. You really have a fresh way to annoy people on the internet.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Victor Morson, on 03 July 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:

I'd comment on how you make a lot of assumptions, but really, the things you are too dumb to be real.

I'm going to guess you are a well done gimmick/trolling account, probably an operative with everyone's favorite organization of trolling accounts. Masterful job at it. You really have a fresh way to annoy people on the internet.

and im real. You are more then welcome to test your skills against my 4x any day. LOL. I love the smell of close minded old mechs burning in the morning.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 03 July 2013 - 02:26 AM.

[HRR Mary]

As of now the only frustration that one can get from the Movement system, is that a multi-ton Battlemech, while moving at speeds above 50Kph, does not build enough momentum to overcome small obstacles.

Initial Speed and mass should be considered for a slowdown effect over time, and not an instant stop.

[Victor Morson]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 03 July 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

and im real. You are more then welcome to test your skills against my 4x any day. LOL. I love the smell of close minded old mechs in the morning.

See, I understood when you said "I don't care if it sucks I like it." But now you're trying to say it's a good 'mech. If you aren't a troll, you are very, very dumb. Mostly for your stupid "over 30" catchphrase, though.

Still banking on troll though. I bet most of the angry responses you get end up on another message board for hilarity. You had me going for a while but I simply cannot believe anyone is that flat out idiotic and still able to form a coherent sentence.

As a troll though, you're pretty funny.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Victor Morson, on 03 July 2013 - 02:28 AM, said:

See, I understood when you said "I don't care if it sucks I like it." But now you're trying to say it's a good 'mech. If you aren't a troll, you are very, very dumb. Mostly for your stupid "over 30" catchphrase, though.

Still banking on troll though. I bet most of the angry responses you get end up on another message board for hilarity. You had me going for a while but I simply cannot believe anyone is that flat out idiotic and still able to form a coherent sentence.

As a troll though, you're pretty funny.

As I said. You are more then welcome to test your "skills" against my 4x. But you wont. You dont want to assept ill drink your mech oil like it was blood. Wait. Have I already? LOL stilly grandpa picking on smarter more skilled minors is for kids.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 03 July 2013 - 02:37 AM.

[Victor Morson]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 03 July 2013 - 02:34 AM, said:

As I said. You are more then welcome to test your "skills" against my 4x. But you wont. You dont want to assept ill drink your mech oil like it was blood. Wait. Have I already? LOL stilly grandpa picking on smarter more skilled minors is for kids.

I don't drive lights but you're more than welcome to face one of my mediums, or one of my pilots in a Raven on Raven fight. As long as we can video record it.

[StalaggtIKE]

Overall the system feels perfect. I believe the issue has more to do with lack of momentum. It seems that it takes less than 1 second after hitting a slowdown ramp, which should be extended a bit. Doing so, would make small obstacles less obtrusive, making movement more natural.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Victor Morson, on 03 July 2013 - 02:51 AM, said:

I don't drive lights but you're more than welcome to face one of my mediums, or one of my pilots in a Raven on Raven fight. As long as we can video record it.

fair and balanced? no snake in the grass bs?