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[Fred013]

We have:

Assault

3 Heroes (soon to be 4)
Heavy Metal
Pretty Baby
Misery
Dragon Slayer (coming soon)

Heavy

4 Heroes
Ilya Muromets
Firebrand
Fang
Flame

1 Champion (Dragon)

Medium

2 Heroes
Yen-Lo-Wang
The X-5

1 Champion (Hunchback)

Light

1 Hero
The Death's Knell

1 Champion (Jenner)


The lights only have 1 hero, and it's not a 30 or 35 tonner. Champion mechs are a joke. Why no hero light mechs? Why no Flea? Why aren't lights getting any love!

[Johnny Reb]

Well most likely since the Jenner was a hero founder, the Raven really doesn't need a hero, the Spider is also meh mostly, Commando has one, and the newest hero has been announced. Also, heaver mechs cost more mc so more $$. Think the locust and up per weight was not a $ decision?

[Fred013]

The Raven doesn't need a hero?! Of course it does! Otherwise there is only 1 decent variant. That makes it need a hero more.
"Spider is also meh mostly" ? what is that supposed to mean? That it doesn't need a hero? The dragons got 2 heroes, and how are they not meh!

(no offence to dragon pilots)

[Johnny Reb]

Well, hero those two up all you want it doesn't bring in the mc like a heavier mech.

edit: give me a spider with missiles and im interested.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 26 June 2013 - 11:49 PM.

[Henry Pride]

A Spider with missles is just a jumping Commando.
I agree with Fred, that there should be a Hero Light, but i dont think we do have enough Heroable Lights atm. TDK is a blast and i love it, also my Founder Jenner. I think another Hero will come, when we do have more choice in Lightmechs. For example iw ould buy a Hero Wolfhound, Firefly, or something like that. The Majority of possible Mechs isnt introduced yet, though i think Flea and Locust wont change the game, cause 20 Tons just are... close to useless.

Edited by Henry Pride, 26 June 2013 - 11:54 PM.

[One Medic Army]

I'd argue we need a Hero Medium more.
Cicada is more of a light mech than it is a medium, and the X-5 makes it really just a fat jetless Jenner.

[Fred013]

One Medic Army, on 26 June 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

I'd argue we need a Hero Medium more.
Cicada is more of a light mech than it is a medium, and the X-5 makes it really just a fat jetless Jenner.

True, a Hero BJ or treb would be nice, but I'd say that the hero that comes after the Dragon Slayer will be a medium. Besides, at least they are releasing mediums. They skipped the flea and further delayed it until August at the earliest. I just want a new light to pilot that isn't a Commando. (Only light I haven't tried)

[Morang]

Another Hero assault is a great disappointment. A path of least resistance and easiest money, but there's no harmony in this decision. "Taking meta in consideration", eh, PGI?

Another Hero assault is a great disappointment. A path of least resistance and easiest money, but there's no harmony in this decision. "Taking meta in consideration", eh, PGI?

[trollocaustic]

Because the ciccada is just a light mech that ate too many burgers.

[627]

Fred013, on 26 June 2013 - 11:45 PM, said:

(no offence to dragon pilots)

lol, like "your mech stinks but no offence" ?


And the cicada is not a medium.especially the X-5. I learn that everyday if i fight light mechs in it.

[Amsro]

627, on 27 June 2013 - 04:09 AM, said:

lol, like "your mech stinks but no offence" ?


And the cicada is not a medium.especially the X-5. I learn that everyday if i fight light mechs in it.

Dragons are a light pilots heavy mech, once you learn some nifty piloting tactics the dragon can be effective. Since it can't be first of the line brawler and live it gets cast into the trash pile along with ; Spider, Awesome, Trebuchet, mechs that you can't just run and gun in.

Cicada makes for a great light hunter, I usually escort them with my 3C treb for a deadly tandem

[aniviron]

Johnny Reb, on 26 June 2013 - 11:42 PM, said:

Well most likely since the Jenner was a hero founder, the Raven really doesn't need a hero, the Spider is also meh mostly, Commando has one, and the newest hero has been announced. Also, heaver mechs cost more mc so more $$. Think the locust and up per weight was not a $ decision?

Raven needs a hero badly! Maybe something without ECM that can do 150kph and is actually meant for combat; the 3L is fine but the 2/4X are a joke due to their engine caps. Garth said they would be getting some love soon, but that was months ago...

[Phashe]

Yup. Light heroes are less $$$. Lastt several and next several are 5000+ MC....

[SMDMadCow]

Phashe, on 27 June 2013 - 06:08 AM, said:

Yup. Light heroes are less $$$. Lastt several and next several are 5000+ MC....

If they cost less, then why not release 2 light Heroes at the same time? Maybe even in a bundle with eachother or with some paint/deco items.

[Matroid]

*bump*

[zhajin]

PGI does not seem to think a light hero will generate enough income to be worth it. it is no coincidence that most heros cost a lot of mc. in reality its entirely likely a raven hero would sell like hot cakes. but why bother taking the risk when they can create more guass/ppc boat assault heros?

[FupDup]

Anyone driving lights in this meta is already a hero.

[AlmightyAeng]

I'm guessing it has to do with making a Hero light balanced is more difficult.

With the larger 'mechs there's more room to introduce a slightly "lesser" hero variant without going overboard, because with so much tonnage and hardpoints, it's easy to take a couple things away.

How do you make a Hero light less favorable to balance out the Hero bonuses without making it LAUGHABLY BAD. See Death's Knell.

If you make it better, you get people instantly crying pay-to-win, because lights are already challenging to play, and any light with a clear advantage will INSTANTLY be snapped up by most light pilots. See Raven 3L.

I'm not saying it's impossible...but it's easier for PGI to do it with other 'mechs...so they have been.

Just a theory.

[Belorion]

Lights and Mediums. If the Sarah Jenner is a hero mech that is one base partially covered. We could still use a few more though.

Ones without:

Spider
Raven
Flea

Blackjack
Trebuchet

Of those I would most like to see the Spider and the Blackjack.

ETA: I am pretty sure I will want one of the Flea. I plan to troll around in that mech as much as I can.

Edited by Belorion, 27 June 2013 - 07:46 AM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

It's all about the Benjamins my friend. What weight classes do you see the most of? Heavies and Assualts. So, it makes more sense to sell the products that are most likely to make the most money.

The only light that could make money would be a Raven hero with more (or bigger) missile hardpoints and ECM. Or maybe an ECM raven with JJ.