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[Sephlock]

In every place where a mech has a ballistic slot, allow unlimited numbers of ballistic weapons.

Now, hear me out here....

The two lightest ballistic weapons are the AC2 and the MG.

MGs are so hilariously weapon that you'd really need to OMGWTFFFFFFF BOAT THE HELL OUT OF THEM to get any mileage out of them, and even then they'd be super short range and you'd run the risk of ammo explosions.

AC/2s are heavy enough and their damage is scattered over enough rapid fire shots that even if a mech boated then it wouldn't be a problem (we might need to add "macro" to the list of filtered words on the forum, but otherwise things should be fine).

Either way, the game gets MOAR DAKKA, and MOAR DAKKA = MORE FUN!

I for one enjoy fighting dakkamechs because it breaks up the monotony.

[One Medic Army]

Sephlock, on 04 July 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

In every place where a mech has a ballistic slot, allow unlimited numbers of ballistic weapons. Now, hear me out here.... The two lightest ballistic weapons are the AC2 and the MG. MGs are so hilariously weapon that you'd really need to OMGWTFFFFFFF BOAT THE HELL OUT OF THEM to get any mileage out of them, and even then they'd be super short range and you'd run the risk of ammo explosions. AC/2s are heavy enough and their damage is scattered over enough rapid fire shots that even if a mech boated then it wouldn't be a problem (we might need to add "macro" to the list of filtered words on the forum, but otherwise things should be fine). Either way, the game gets MOAR DAKKA, and MOAR DAKKA = MORE FUN! I for one enjoy fighting dakkamechs because it breaks up the monotony.

Can't say I disagree.
Was playing around with the Shadow Hawk 2H on SMurfy, and I realized something:
I could mount 3 MGs for 1.5tons (+2tons of ammo) and the next lightest ballistic option that would actually be effective was a Pair of AC/2s or an AC/10 for 12 tons.
1.5 tons straight up to 12tons.
Single AC/2s, AC/5s, and UAC/5s aren't that hot, though this might improve if the pinpoint alpha metagame is reduced in effectiveness.

[Asmosis]

I think if the crit system changed to a MW4 style where you could put as much as you want in X amount of ballistic slots, it'd boil down to lots of low caliber ballistics/lasers and nobody would use the bigger stuff.

I loved playing around with a 16 machine gun rack annihilator there, but they would be pretty OP in MWO when said mech can also carry a few ER PPC's to defend itself at range.

Perhaps if we get those MG racks it wouldn't be an issue with the current system? they occupied 1 crit slot, weighed 4x (2 ton) and did 4x the damage roughly. It would make regular MG's obsolete though (which was a common theme for MW4).

Dakka IS fun, I love playing with MG jagger builds even though I know they aren't as efficient as other builds. 4uac5 is also a very fun build, although you only have enough ammo to take down one maybe 2 opponents.

Edited by Asmosis, 04 July 2013 - 12:59 AM.

[Abledime]

Errr NO

I run a Jager with 2 UAC5 and 4 Mg and 2 LL and anybody unlucky enough to walk in font of me is dead, its very heat efficient, (no need to alpha) holds loads of ammo and since dropping my twin guasse build i have gone form 1 to 2 kills per match(if I'm lucky) with her to 3-5 kills, loads of component destruction bonuses, letting me have any more fire power on this thing is just unfair, hey if i could put 10 Mg in the arms as per your proposal that would be 20 dps for NO HEAT and 10 tonnes +ammo Ok so i would be close range brawler, but at 70kmh that's not a problem and would leave most heavy and assaults cored in seconds

[Typhoon Storm 2142]

Sephlock, on 04 July 2013 - 12:14 AM, said:

In every place where a mech has a ballistic slot, allow unlimited numbers of ballistic weapons.

Troll OP is obviously trolling.

Unlimited weapons...yeah right.

I'm gonna put 8 billion AC20 on my Raven and win every battle by pressing the fire button once, annihilating the enemy, the map and the whole universe in the process.

PS: At least do us the favor of removing your double thread in the feature forum. Is it really so hard to use a forum properly?

Edited by Typhoon Storm 2142, 04 July 2013 - 03:53 AM.

[Corvus Antaka]

MG is fine. if anything it's OP due to lack of heat and WAY to much ammo. cut to 400 rounds per ton please.

[Sephlock]

Typhoon Storm 2142, on 04 July 2013 - 03:51 AM, said:

Troll OP is obviously trolling. Unlimited weapons...yeah right. I'm gonna put 8 billion AC20 on my Raven and win every battle by pressing the fire button once, annihilating the enemy, the map and the whole universe in the process.

How are you going to fit that many AC/20s on a Raven? You would have neither the tonnage nor the crit slots.

Edited by Sephlock, 04 July 2013 - 04:19 PM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

MG's = 1dps with zero heat.

The OP is suggesting that we should allow people to use 30 Machineguns on a single Mech since it would be fun. It would also be so cheezy that I don't even need to explain the cheesiness.

[Sephlock]

Prosperity Park, on 04 July 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

MG's = 1dps with zero heat.

The OP is suggesting that we should allow people to use 30 Machineguns on a single Mech since it would be fun. It would also be so cheezy that I don't even need to explain the cheesiness.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

You'd need plenty of ammo, and you'd need to get super close to use them!

Also there's the issue of MG spread...

[Felicitatem Parco]

Sephlock, on 04 July 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

You'd need plenty of ammo, and you'd need to get super close to use them!

Also there's the issue of MG spread...

I can see it now... "Machinegun boat Ilya Muromets is OP."

30MG, 2 ERPPC. Weighs as much as Gauss + 2 PPC... 30dps close range + bursts of 20dmg...

[Skadi]

Prosperity Park, on 04 July 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

MG's = 1dps with zero heat.

The OP is suggesting that we should allow people to use 30 Machineguns on a single Mech since it would be fun. It would also be so cheezy that I don't even need to explain the cheesiness.

60 MG'S BRING FORTH THE QQ.

[PanzerMagier]

I think mechs should have dedicated machine gun hardpoints. On every mech. You must unlock them with GXP and cost C-bills to integrate and they replace one weapon system. There is a maximum number of machine gun arrays you may put on a mech tho.

EX: you can remove the ams to install a machine gun array.
Or one missile hard point (up to a maximum of 3). Giving you a grand total of 4 machine gun arrays. 5 if you have duel ams. Which you can match up with your ballistic hardpoints.

that would be nice.

Edited by PanzerMagier, 04 July 2013 - 05:59 PM.

[Sephlock]

Watch out for ammo explosions!

[PanzerMagier]

with this setup. Your MG ammo might actually click dry. that's horrifying!

[Sephlock]

Honestly this idea started out as "give every mech with a ballistic slot in a given location one extra ballistic slot in each of those locations". Then it became two, then three, then I realized how absurdly high the number of MGs would have to be for them to become viable and just said "**** it, lets go unlimited" .

[Steve Varayis]

Prosperity Park, on 04 July 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

MG's = 1dps with zero heat.

The OP is suggesting that we should allow people to use 30 Machineguns on a single Mech since it would be fun. It would also be so cheezy that I don't even need to explain the cheesiness.

It's Dangerously Cheesy!

[PanzerMagier]

Rather just let everyone play this.

[Steve Varayis]

METALSTORM GOGOGO

OVER 9000 BULLETS!

[PanzerMagier]

no, get lost with that crappy realistic weapon. We don't tolerate real working overpowered weapons...