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[Disapirro]

This game needs a solo queue where people are not on voice comms, except through the game, and a ‘pro’ queue where organized teams on voice comms can get what they claim to desire, a competitive match.

I believe this will damper some of the balance issues. I think the ppc, or other fotm issues really become a problem when one side or the other has too many running that build and the other side does not. More solo randomization for casual players may lesson this by distributing the ‘good’ builds by randomly assigning them to teams, rather than what is currently happening with the people who know what they are doing and getting a drop in their favor by dropping together with others in like builds

I don't have a problem with the 'pro' players playing the way they like against other 'pro' players with only the ‘best’ weapons and tactics. What I have a problem with, as an exclusively pug playing member of the base, is the pug stomping. Mostly what I hear is, “I am competitive and want to be the best so I use the best weapons and group up because that is how you win.” Great, now do this in the ‘pro’ player queue, and once and for all, you will now know if you are as good as you think you are.

*posted earlier in another thread, but thought it should be own topic discussion.

[FactorlanP]

Better yet... We need built in voice comms for everyone.

[Sigifrid]

We have been over this. The answer is no. We do not need the queue split any further than it will be, especially with the 3rd person view (crap) coming.

[HansBlix WMD]

Easy solution: make the 3rd person also solo only. Then you're only split once, and emphasize the fact that first person view is for true competitive types, while the solo, 3rd person view is for casual use and practice.

[soarra]

yes lets divide the players more.. and how about a separate queue for people with purple mechs, one for one small lasers only..

[Disapirro]

Assuming the base is big enough or becomes big enough. Now what's your beef with the idea?

[El Bandito]

I am a solodropper and I prefer to play against other solodroppers. This game has no good VOIP to justify pugs vs. pre-mades.

Therefore I support OP.

[kuangmk11]

soarra, on 07 July 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

yes lets divide the players more.. and how about a separate queue for people with purple mechs, one for one small lasers only..

We don't have to split it even more. Just put all the groups in the eight man queue. They need more people in there to stomp anyway.

[soarra]

kuangmk11, on 07 July 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

We don't have to split it even more. Just put all the groups in the eight man queue. They need more people in there to stomp anyway.

no one plays 8 mans except the so called Leet (lol) who run stalkers with pppppccccsssss

[soarra]

El Bandito, on 07 July 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

I am a solodropper and I prefer to play against other solodroppers. This game has no good VOIP to justify pugs vs. pre-mades.

Therefore I support OP.

no game has good built in voice coms. use the TS server

[Purlana]

Funny how there are so many FPS games with solo que options. Wait a minute...

Edited by Purlana, 07 July 2013 - 05:37 PM.

[Disapirro]

soarra, on 07 July 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

no game has good built in voice coms. use the TS server

That's the problem, organized well built teams use this, casual players do not. Hence the balance issue.

[Purlana]

Disapirro, on 07 July 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

That's the problem, organized well built teams use this, casual players do not. Hence the balance issue.

Casual players can join teams and use vent/ts...

Edited by Purlana, 07 July 2013 - 05:40 PM.

[Disapirro]

Purlana, on 07 July 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

Funny how there are so many FPS games with solo que options. Wait a minute...

No idea how this invalidates the idea, but ok

Purlana, on 07 July 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

Casual players can join teams.

Your solution is not working.

[El Bandito]

soarra, on 07 July 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

no game has good built in voice coms. use the TS server

If I use the TS server then I am not a solodropper anymore. Duh.

I want to solodrop against other solodroppers. Easy enough to understand, yes?

Edited by El Bandito, 07 July 2013 - 05:41 PM.

[Purlana]

Disapirro, on 07 July 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Your solution is not working.

Sure it is, I have played with casual players.

[Kunae]

Disapirro, on 07 July 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

This game needs a solo queue where people are not on voice comms, except through the game, and a ‘pro’ queue where organized teams on voice comms can get what they claim to desire, a competitive match.

I believe this will damper some of the balance issues. I think the ppc, or other fotm issues really become a problem when one side or the other has too many running that build and the other side does not. More solo randomization for casual players may lesson this by distributing the ‘good’ builds by randomly assigning them to teams, rather than what is currently happening with the people who know what they are doing and getting a drop in their favor by dropping together with others in like builds

I don't have a problem with the 'pro' players playing the way they like against other 'pro' players with only the ‘best’ weapons and tactics. What I have a problem with, as an exclusively pug playing member of the base, is the pug stomping. Mostly what I hear is, “I am competitive and want to be the best so I use the best weapons and group up because that is how you win.” Great, now do this in the ‘pro’ player queue, and once and for all, you will now know if you are as good as you think you are.

*posted earlier in another thread, but thought it should be own topic discussion.

No.

[Sigifrid]

El Bandito, on 07 July 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

I am a solodropper and I prefer to play against other solodroppers. This game has no good VOIP to justify pugs vs. pre-mades.

Therefore I support OP.

Everyone in the so-called "premade pug-stomping groups" have been calling for this solution since the topic first broke. After implementing C3, nothing has been done to address the VOIP problem. Additionally, a lobby system could help to let the teams coordinate mech drops before combat, if they so choose.

With a proper VOIP, the pugs would get the same access to the same advantages that the TS3 premades have. Even without a mic they can still listen to their teammates. Granted, there will be griefers who abuse it, but that is why properly integrated VOIP has mute functions.

And to those who just say "I will mute the VOIP if it ever comes in, and still whine about premades with better communication ability,": If you choose to not use the built in functions, that is your own problem. Do not blame it on others.

EDIT:

El Bandito, on 07 July 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

If I use the TS server then I am not a solodropper anymore. Duh.

I want to solodrop against other solodroppers. Easy enough to understand, yes?

And if VOIP comes you will join groups?

Edited by Sigifrid, 07 July 2013 - 05:44 PM.

[Disapirro]

Purlana, on 07 July 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

Sure it is, I have played with casual players.

Oh, your experience that all is fine means everything ok. Thanks for your input.

[Purlana]

Disapirro, on 07 July 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

Oh, your experience that all is fine means everything ok. Thanks for your input.

Just because your a casual player, that doesn't mean you can't join a group....