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[syzk]

Not sure if this has been already posted on here before but I had an idea the other day while chatting with a mate about PPC boats on how you could effectively balance them without touching or altering the current dmg/heat/cooldown/range of any weapons in game now.

2 methods both similar but with different effects both revolve around the idea of a cap on each individual hard point on the mech, a tonnage cap such as my CTF 1X has 5 energy hardpoints to stop anyone from simply cheesing it up with 4-5 PPCs just apply a tonnage cap of 7 ton to the torso hardpoints and 5/2/1 tonnage to the arms whatever is required you could even allow say 2 energy hardpoints in the arm both have a cap of 5 ton so I could either combine the 2 caps and place a PPC or simply install 2 LL instead.

The other method similar could work off of a weapon class system rather then tonnage where all the weapons in the game could be labelled as light/med/heavy/siege or something similar so you could base the cap on the hard point as a damage/range limitation rather then a weight.

This not only removes boating but would also further diversify the current variants even more so and yet still allow players to build their mech freely.

thanks for reading

[Jasen]

No, read Homeless Bill's idea.

[Doctor Smiley]

And another Balance Post don't we have enough of these not like they are hard to find in the forums...Just look at every other post

[3rdworld]

Countess Hemah, on 10 July 2013 - 02:31 PM, said:

And another Balance Post don't we have enough of these not like they are hard to find in the forums...Just look at every other post

This is the "Gameplay Balance" forum. What do you expect to find in the "Gameplay Balance" forum, but a forum discussing Gameplay Balance?

[Doctor Smiley]

3rdworld, on 10 July 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

This is the "Gameplay Balance" forum. What do you expect to find in the "Gameplay Balance" forum, but a forum discussing Gameplay Balance?

They could post in one of the other countless Balance ones instead of making a new thread...Just an idea...

[Homeless Bill]

Jasen, on 10 July 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

No, read Homeless Bill's idea.

=D I love it when I don't even have to shamelessly promote my solution.

Edit: From the Rebuttals II section...

Spoiler

Hardpoint restrictions are a good idea for a few reasons, and I do think they would help with a lot of the current cheese that’s running around. That said, it’s not a permanent or proper solution to our problem. What about the Warhawk? What about the Hunchback IIC? Even Inner Sphere ‘mechs like the Devastator or Thunderhawk look unbelievably angry running stock configurations.

I’ll be doing an article at another time about hardpoint restrictions. Regardless of where you stand on the idea, it doesn’t solve Canon boats, and that’s a rather large shortcoming.

Verdict: Somewhat effective at mitigating the problem, does not solve Canon boats, does not solve the real issue, could be harsh and irritating depending on implementation.

Basically, you either roll with hardpoint restrictions and tapdance around the 'mechs that aren't limited enough or you fix the real problem. I vote fixing the real problem.

Edited by Homeless Bill, 10 July 2013 - 02:47 PM.