11 replies to this topic

[ManDaisy]

The requirement is that you be well ingrained with table top weights and measures and have the ability to stay hidden. Armed with this knowledge and the time gained by avoiding detection, you should be able to mental math when a mech is overburdened with weapons/ heat sinks, which means they sacrificed armor somewhere. Usually, its the legs. Do with that knowledge what you will on teamspeak.

Here is a quick table for the most common Total weapons weight to movement speed. I suggest assuming at least -8 weight or the usual amount of 18 heatsinks.

Excluding heat sinks weapons weights:
100 (3/5) 35.5 tons
95 (3/5) 34.5
90 (3/5) 33
85 (3/5) 31 (4/6) 16
80 (3/5) 29 (4/6) 17
75 (3/5) 27 (4/6) 18


Rule of Thumb: Anything Moving at 5/8 with more then 5 tons of weapons DOES NOT have full armor.

70~ under it may be faster to blow out the torsos.

XL engines, are usually when things dont add up, in that case instruct your team to aim at the torsos.

Edited by ManDaisy, 10 June 2012 - 10:21 AM.

[Xandre Blackheart]

I wonder if advanced scout mechs (or pilot trees) will have the ability to "scan" a mech's load-out and armor.... It certainly would make scouts very valuable.

[Ginrummy]

your math isn't entirely correct, it's close however. Once you start going under 70 5/8 gets easier, as the cases are with the OST and OSR. Both units having decent armor, if the heat profile is a little lacking. Don't under estimate lighter mechs, the old school TDR 5S was quiet deadly.

[Vorus]

For those of us who have never played the TT game, cam you explain what 5/8 means?

I like the theory of what you're saying, but I'm clearly lacking some knowledge to be able to implement it.

[ermine]

5/8 on TT = 86.4 km/h max speed.

[Woodstock]

Xandre Blackheart, on 10 June 2012 - 10:35 AM, said:

I wonder if advanced scout mechs (or pilot trees) will have the ability to "scan" a mech's load-out and armor.... It certainly would make scouts very valuable.

yes they do ... its already seen in one of the videos

[Saren21]

Good post for a scout thank you for the info i know it will help my noob butt, when it comes time to play up my role as a scout.

[Death Mallet]

Ahhh. . . that's taking me back to the good old days of MathTech. . . tweaking specs to create the highest possible weapon tonnage while maintaining max armor and acceptable speed.

[CCC Dober]

The first number in 5/8 refers to the walking speed of a Mech, measured in hexes. The second number is running speed. These numbers are rather obscure because MW:O does not limit the movement of Mechs to hexes. Neither is it turn-based or controlled by dice. Tabletop-lingo at best, confusing at worst.

[Vorus]

Thanks CCC Dober! (Can I call you Trip? ) So basically, I can kind of ignore the TT lingo as long as I translate the data into MWO terms.

[OJ191]

As further explanation, one hex is 30 meters and one turn is 10 seconds. Thus the mech movement speed is equivalent to the amount of 30 meter blocks they can travel in 10 seconds. Therefore you can use this nifty little formula below to work out movespeeds


movespeed of the mech (whether its in hexes or kph) = ms
for TT -> RL ms in kph = ms*10.8
RL -> TT ms in hexes = ms/10.8

(I compacted the formula down from ms*30/10*60*60/1000 which does hex/turn -> metres/turn -> metres/second -> metres/minute -> metres/hour -> kilometres/hour)

Edited by OJ191, 10 June 2012 - 07:54 PM.

[latdheretic]

Ya it breaks down at lower mech weights, but it's valid with the big boys. . .

For example my preferred mech mobility is the 5/8/5

At my favorite weight class, and using only standard equipment that leaves 14 tons of armament. If I have any more, it means that I am sacrificing some armor.

5/8/5 means as explained by ermine is 86.4 km/h max speed. the last /5 means that it will jump 150 or 5 hexes on the table top.