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[Sheraf]

Corusmaximus, on 11 July 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

For LRM boats, is Artemis worth it currently?

I know about this thread http://mwomercs.com/...temis-worth-it/
But it is hopelessly out of date, it was written back when people had to pay for ammo refills, and Artemis ammo cost a bunch more.

In today's meta, does it make sense?

About my situation:
I play PUGs only.
Running a slow Stalker 3H with LRM 50 and 4 Mlas.

Thanks

I have a 3H too, but I use only 2 LRM20 with Artemis. They work pretty well for me,hope it helps

[Tor Gungnir]

I'd say Artemis is almost a requirement if you want to field SRMs. Especially if you're anything bigger than a Medium since you can't afford to waddle over to the enemy and touch cockpits with them in order to get any semblance of accuracy. Lights and speedy Mediums... eh. You can already crawl up the butt of the enemy as it is. Maybe if you intend to hunt other Lights/Mediums but then one could argue that SSRMs are better.

Edited by Tor Gungnir, 14 July 2013 - 05:57 PM.

[scJazz]

Tor Gungnir, on 14 July 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

I'd say Artemis is almost a requirement if you want to field SRMs. Especially if you're anything bigger than a Medium since you can't afford to waddle over to the enemy and touch cockpits with them in order to get any semblance of accuracy. Lights and speedy Mediums... eh. You can already crawl up the butt of the enemy as it is. Maybe if you intend to hunt other Lights/Mediums but then one could argue that SSRMs are better.

Random thought... does anyone write better English than the Swedes? I've been reading a bunch of posts by lots of people... ostensibly American... their grasp of the language sucks! But Tor here... perfect every time.

[Tor Gungnir]

scJazz, on 14 July 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

Random thought... does anyone write better English than the Swedes? I've been reading a bunch of posts by lots of people... ostensibly American... their grasp of the language sucks! But Tor here... perfect every time.

Oh please, you make me blush. I don't want to toot my own horn here, but I've always had a knack for English. I started loving the old PC D&D games such as the Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate series at a young age so I had to teach myself to read English out of necessity. It has nothing to do with our schools or anything like that.


EDIT

Also, this:

Edited by Tor Gungnir, 15 July 2013 - 06:04 AM.

[Just wanna play]

also just remember, Artemis is the goddess of the hunt

[Lugh]

Just wanna play, on 17 July 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

also just remember, Artemis is the goddess of the hunt

And remember to get more Sexy into the game we need hot female pilots and decals for the mechs too!

[Tk3997]

This is something I've actually been wondering myself lately, but from a "Was all that money for this really worth it?" rather then a "Should I buy it?" position. I run a trio of Highlanders one of them is a brawler, but the others vary between fire support and snipers depending on my mood. The main difference between them is that one of them has the Artemis upgrade and the other doesn't and after plenty of play with them my opinion can be summed up with a simple damning indictment: I can't really notice a difference.

I don't seem to do more damage, the lock on time is perfectly workable in 99% of cases on standard guidance, and since I'm firing LRMs indirect A LOT the bonuses don't even matter. I actually notice a considerably larger difference with SRMs, I might actually support it on an SRM boat purely for the added accuracy,but for LRMs? Well I've personally been distinctly unimpressed. I no longer intend to spend the huge C-bill cost to add it to my other mech and I frankly kind of wish I hadn't added it to the first. I just don't feel like it's covering it's costs in terms of weight and slots. To be utterly frank I'd much rather have two or three extra tons of LRM ammo, being able to spam at marginal targets cause I have plenty of rounds has proved far, FAR more useful then the highly nebulous benefits Artemis seems to provide to LRM.

So yeah IMO invest in BAP to prevent being lock blocked by ECM lights, mount a TAG if you can to slice through ECM at distance, and then just pile on the ammo and pass on the extra weight and space of Artemis.

Edited by Tk3997, 17 July 2013 - 10:19 PM.

[Just wanna play]

Tk3997, on 17 July 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

This is something I've actually been wondering myself lately, but from a "Was all that money for this really worth it?" rather then a "Should I buy it?" position. I run a trio of Highlanders one of them is a brawler, but the others vary between fire support and snipers depending on my mood. The main difference between them is that one of them has the Artemis upgrade and the other doesn't and after plenty of play with them my opinion can be summed up with a simple damning indictment: I can't really notice a difference.

I don't seem to do more damage, the lock on time is perfectly workable in 99% of cases on standard guidance, and since I'm firing LRMs indirect A LOT the bonuses don't even matter. I actually notice a considerably larger difference with SRMs, I might actually support it on an SRM boat purely for the added accuracy,but for LRMs? Well I've personally been distinctly unimpressed. I no longer intend to spend the huge C-bill cost to add it to my other mech and I frankly kind of wish I hadn't added it to the first. I just don't feel like it's covering it's costs in terms of weight and slots. To be utterly frank I'd much rather have two or three extra tons of LRM ammo, being able to spam at marginal targets cause I have plenty of rounds has proved far, FAR more useful then the highly nebulous benefits Artemis seems to provide to LRM.

So yeah IMO invest in BAP to prevent being lock blocked by ECM lights, mount a TAG if you can to slice through ECM at distance, and then just pile on the ammo and pass on the extra weight and space of Artemis.

what exactly were the weapons you where using?? smaller salvos benefit less, also lrms are kind of bugged right now, a little to accurate again (also think they have a damage problem, my 3 lrm 15 awesome couldn't kill a jager with NO ct armor and cherry red internals )



think of it this way, if you already have enough lrm ammo, might as well put Artemis on to make the best use of the rest of your tonnage AND your ammo, and i don't use bap