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[SiorAlpin Wolf]

Is the current flight path supposed to avoid contact with the ground?

I have seen many Lrm's take a normal flight path from launch,, i.e the launch in an upward direction then descend towards the target, BUT, as they get close to the ground they suddenly change trajectory to fly parallel with the ground until it hits the target.......thats the strangest flight physics i have ever seen and makes avoiding lrm's pretty difficult unless you can move behind cover and block the downward descent.

The Lrm tracking should be from when the lrm's become armed, and point of contact calculated according to the targets movement, but once the missiles start the downward the descent that should be the final plotted flight path until they make contact with either the target an obstructing object or terrain or the ground.

How it is at the moment is just daft, they look as though they are remote controlled lolz

[Nicholas Carlyle]

SiorAlpin Wolf, on 15 July 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

Is the current flight path supposed to avoid contact with the ground?

I have seen many Lrm's take a normal flight path from launch,, i.e the launch in an upward direction then descend towards the target, BUT, as they get close to the ground they suddenly change trajectory to fly parallel with the ground until it hits the target.......thats the strangest flight physics i have ever seen and makes avoiding lrm's pretty difficult unless you can move behind cover and block the downward descent.

The Lrm tracking should be from when the lrm's become armed, and point of contact calculated according to the targets movement, but once the missiles start the downward the descent that should be the final plotted flight path until they make contact with either the target an obstructing object or terrain or the ground.

How it is at the moment is just daft, they look as though they are remote controlled lolz

Honestly, the flight path gets borked no matter what they do.

What PGI SHOULD do is rework LRM's from the ground up like they said they were going to do.

Instead they've just continued to alter them and break/fix them as they go.

The problem with the flight path is there is a decision that has to be made.

IF someone has a lock on you through the entire flight of LRM's and no obstacles like terrain in the way, should LRM's...

A] Always hit

or

B] Be able to miss

The flight path before this one, LRM's had a downward angle with no recovery, so if you moved sideways a large portion of the volley would miss.

The newest flight path adjusts for sideways movement via the mechanic you listed above.

Edit: And for clarification, if LRM's can miss with a lock held through the entire flight, then damage would need to be buffed a good bit.

[General Taskeen]

If they left lrm's as fire and forget, and simply fixed the spread, added other things like max missile turn or whatever, they would been fine instead of the constant tweaks.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

General Taskeen, on 15 July 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:

If they left lrm's as fire and forget, and simply fixed the spread, added other things like max missile turn or whatever, they would been fine instead of the constant tweaks.

This comes back to PGI needed to do a full rework of how LRM's operate.

And as I noted in another thread about LRM's there are too many things effecting LRM usage right now.

UAV.
BAP.
TAG.
ARTEMIS.
ECM.
AMS.
Missile Warning.
Spotter Flight Path.
Direct Fire Flight Path.
Minimum Range.
Firing from 900+m.
Firing from 500ishm.
Using an LRM 5.
Using 6 LRM 5's.
Using an LRM 20.
Using 2 LRM 20's and 2 LRM 10's.
Adv. Target Decay.
Regular Target Decay.
Adv. Sensor Range.
Reg. Sensor Range.

These are all the things (I'm sure there are more) you have to account for currently when balancing LRM's.

[Kitane]

SiorAlpin Wolf, on 15 July 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

Is the current flight path supposed to avoid contact with the ground?

I have seen many Lrm's take a normal flight path from launch,, i.e the launch in an upward direction then descend towards the target, BUT, as they get close to the ground they suddenly change trajectory to fly parallel with the ground until it hits the target.......thats the strangest flight physics i have ever seen and makes avoiding lrm's pretty difficult unless you can move behind cover and block the downward descent.

The Lrm tracking should be from when the lrm's become armed, and point of contact calculated according to the targets movement, but once the missiles start the downward the descent that should be the final plotted flight path until they make contact with either the target an obstructing object or terrain or the ground.

How it is at the moment is just daft, they look as though they are remote controlled lolz

LRM mech lost a lock on its target and then reacquired it before his missiles expired. That can result in pretty sharp turns as missiles try to correct their flightpath and turn towards their original target's current position.

[SiorAlpin Wolf]

Agreed.....they should re-work lrms from the ground up, the way it stands at the moment pgi will get nothing but headaches trying to get it right, yes there is a lot to take into consideration for plotting the hit or miss and flight path of the Lrm, but really, changing the trajectory to fly parallel with ground is just daft how ever you look at it.

Yup i have seen that too Kitane but there should be a range limit on reacquiring target lock and missiles correcting flight path, to keep in conjunction with the physics used on other weapon systems.

Once the Lrms start their descent other than a realistic adjustment once they reach the point of contact whatever it may be that should be it............none of this........Oh i have missed my target..i know...i'll just change my trajectory so i become a bouncing bomb...nonsense.

Pgi had the flight path as near as damn it spot on back in closed beta, now they behave like heat seeking missiles which Lrm's are NOT, oh perhaps thats something for the future

[Ransack]

When I observed them, they had already missed the target (the only one in the area) then continued to sweep down the hill instead of hitting the ground. If they were correcting, they should turn the other way.