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[Unbound Inferno]

Just a stray thought (and cause I don't own the mech that can do it) has anyone tried a AC-20/Gauss Jag?

It appears marginally less effective than the AC-40 (35vs40 damage, and projectile speeds) but how would it fare for the practical up-close mele hits? Could it work? Might that become a problem? Since I don't think it obeys Paul's penalty idea.

Edited by Unbound Inferno, 17 July 2013 - 04:35 PM.

[Orzorn]

Most Jaegers tend to lose their side or CTs before their arms, so I doubt the explosion would be much of an issue anyways. Even if it was, you have the bonus of having a long range weapon on your mech, whereas 2 AC/20s has no such capability.

[Unbound Inferno]

That's what I'm thinking...

Although its no sniper, the extra free ranged shots put it in a slightly better position.

Although the comparable dual Gauss jag does more at range with less up close at just 30 damage. That and I don't think Paul has entertained the idea of penalizing dual Gauss yet, so I don't know. Just a stray thought.

[Purlana]

Unbound Inferno, on 17 July 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

Just a stray thought (and cause I don't own the mech that can do it) has anyone tried a AC-20/Gauss Jag?

It appears marginally less effective than the AC-40 (35vs40 damage, and projectile speeds) but how would it fare for the practical up-close mele hits? Could it work? Might that become a problem? Since I don't think it obeys Paul's penalty idea.

2 PPC + 1 GR = 35 DMG, and more range.

[Unbound Inferno]

Purlana, on 17 July 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

2 PPC + 1 GR = 35 DMG, and more range.

Min range of 90m.

The idea I have, or at least the direction - is an incredibly heat efficient build.

The 2 PPC (or ERPPC) still generate alot of heat.

[WVAnonymous]

Purlana, on 17 July 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

2 PPC + 1 GR = 35 DMG, and more range.

This works better on a Highlander with 3 SRM6s.

[Orzorn]

Unbound Inferno, on 17 July 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Min range of 90m.

Gauss Rifles in MWO do not have a minimum range.

[Unbound Inferno]

Orzorn, on 17 July 2013 - 05:41 PM, said:

Gauss Rifles in MWO do not have a minimum range.

The loadout siggested with 2x PPC (regular ones) does. Its significantly less effective inside that.

besides, Gauss min range should be 60m.

[Joseph Mallan]

Unbound, I have less success with Gauss on a Jager than I do with 2 20s. And I love Gauss! a +24 heat penalty for using 2 weapons is totally unjust. I fire 6 weapons in an Alpha with no penalty but 2 weapons that throw 2/3 my Alpha with in the same range...

Just a stupid idea.

[Aeten]

I tried a AC 20 + Gauss build on my JM6-S because I had no money for DHS etc. what I found was that the 2 weapons are hard to coordinate effectively. Ammo is also a serious problem. You can easily run out of one or the other. Also, as the Jager has ballistic slots in the arms, the space saved by a gauss is irrelevant and you are better off with the lower weight AC 20 in most cases. It might work if you have very good concentration and skill

[Dephylr]

I was using 2 ml, 1 ac 20 and 1 ac 10 today to decent effect. I still need to find a solid build to replace the 40 as even with chain fire there is a higher level of heat.

[Unbound Inferno]

Aeten, on 17 July 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

I tried a AC 20 + Gauss build on my JM6-S because I had no money for DHS etc. what I found was that the 2 weapons are hard to coordinate effectively. Ammo is also a serious problem. You can easily run out of one or the other. Also, as the Jager has ballistic slots in the arms, the space saved by a gauss is irrelevant and you are better off with the lower weight AC 20 in most cases. It might work if you have very good concentration and skill

The weapon speeds make that much of a difference then? Hm... wonder how that could translate to PPC if that was lowered/(gasp)increased vs Gauss.