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#1 Ahmose

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 02:02 PM

Is it just me or has anyone noticed when they pay to play you get set on better teams, have higher scores, and a higher kill to death ratio? Ive tested this 5 times now and each time Ive noticed a major difference when my paid time runs out.

I have zero problems with less xp and less mc when youre playing for free. I feel its fair and balanced. To have player put on worse teams, un balanced teams, or any other possible hidden penalties is just wrong if you ask me.

Make it fair across the board, just keep the rewards lower for not paying. Not actually penalize or disadvantage people for not paying.

Can anyone confirm or refute this? Im not sayin all my matches are losses and everything goes to zero, but a noticable difference occurs when my paid time runs out. Please confirm one way or the other if you can.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 02:18 PM

I've found that when I hop on one foot right before entering a match, my weapons seem to fire more accurately.

I kid, but this is the human psyche at play. We look for patterns where there are none. Sometimes these patterns exist, but they're related to something entirely different than we think they are. It's even possible that you're playing better just as a result of the psychological difference of knowing you're "on the clock", so to speak. The brain does weird things sometimes. Look up the term cognitive dissonance sometime when you're bored.

I'll say pretty firmly that having seen both premium play and non-premium play, I have experienced absolutely zero difference in the match results. I sincerely doubt if PGI were to dare to include such a mechanic that they'd get away with it. Someone would be able to document the pattern and they'd get crucified for it.

Edited by Gallowglas, 19 July 2013 - 02:23 PM.


#3 Otto Cannon

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 02:42 PM

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#4 Homeless Bill

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 02:44 PM

View PostOtto Cannon, on 19 July 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

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#5 Ahmose

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 03:00 PM

lol good job on the foil hat pic. like i had said before. maybe it was just me. Was curious if anyone else experienced this or not. Im open minded about hings and totally understand the human psyche which is why I came on here to ask others. thanks for friendly replies and humorous pics. better than some of the other gaming communities I beong to. again, thanks guys! input is always appreciated!

#6 Mystere

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 03:21 PM

View PostAhmose, on 19 July 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

lol good job on the foil hat pic. like i had said before. maybe it was just me. Was curious if anyone else experienced this or not. Im open minded about hings and totally understand the human psyche which is why I came on here to ask others. thanks for friendly replies and humorous pics. better than some of the other gaming communities I beong to. again, thanks guys! input is always appreciated!


I think you spoke too soon. You just met all of the "good" guys/gals. :P

Edited by Mystere, 19 July 2013 - 03:22 PM.


#7 Ahmose

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 03:33 PM

topic is still open one way or another, was meant to for people to put their findings on here and hi\opefully using a method other than just "im mad trhat I lost" or " im awesome that I won" give it a real test to be certain. averages, math, curves. please. this isnt just a "im mad that I didnt as often as I thought I should" post. More of a I find it odd that I lost more often when not under a paid subscrption than when under a paid subscription. I really would like others data to substantiate this or refute this.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:32 PM

View PostAhmose, on 19 July 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Is it just me or has anyone noticed when they pay to play you get set on better teams, have higher scores, and a higher kill to death ratio? Ive tested this 5 times now and each time Ive noticed a major difference when my paid time runs out.

I have zero problems with less xp and less mc when youre playing for free. I feel its fair and balanced. To have player put on worse teams, un balanced teams, or any other possible hidden penalties is just wrong if you ask me.

Make it fair across the board, just keep the rewards lower for not paying. Not actually penalize or disadvantage people for not paying.

Can anyone confirm or refute this? Im not sayin all my matches are losses and everything goes to zero, but a noticable difference occurs when my paid time runs out. Please confirm one way or the other if you can.

I have not noticed this. I have paid a boa load of money into the game on Joe's account, on my 3 other accounts... not so much. 2 f my Alts are doing on par with this account and the third is not cause I am playing it like a Goliath Scorpion and Energy weapons are just not quite getting the job done well enough for me there.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:40 PM

View PostAhmose, on 19 July 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

topic is still open one way or another, was meant to for people to put their findings on here and hi\opefully using a method other than just "im mad trhat I lost" or " im awesome that I won" give it a real test to be certain. averages, math, curves. please. this isnt just a "im mad that I didnt as often as I thought I should" post. More of a I find it odd that I lost more often when not under a paid subscrption than when under a paid subscription. I really would like others data to substantiate this or refute this.


The problem with testing this is that it requires giving money to PGI and there are curently not that many players left that are still willing to do that. Good luck with trying to find a proof though.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:06 PM

View PostIceSerpent, on 19 July 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

The problem with testing this is that it requires giving money to PGI and there are curently not that many players left that are still willing to do that. Good luck with trying to find a proof though.

Game has improved massively since last patch, enough I opted for a Phoenix package.

Just saying.

#11 Ahmose

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:26 PM

hey guys, thnak you for thy\e input. this isnt a random "im anrgy" post. im glad theres posts that are refuting or bolstering this. nice community!

#12 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 05:31 PM

A User's Premium Status and their Founder's Status are both ignored by the Matchmaking System.

#13 PanzerMagier

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:09 PM

View PostOtto Cannon, on 19 July 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

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Quoted for great justice.

#14 Steve Varayis

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 04:31 AM

Illuminati did it for Clan Invasion

#15 PanzerMagier

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 09:16 AM

View PostSteve Varayis, on 25 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

Illuminati did it for Clan Invasion


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