31 replies to this topic

[M E X]

I intend to buy a new Notebook next month HERE IN VIENNA, AUSTRIA, EU and need to know which FPS I will have to expect !

Option 1 is a MSI GE70 for less than 1000€ :( which is actually much too expensive for my Budget ):

Option 2 is a ASUS X75A :( which might not be powerfull enough ):

MfG, MEX

PS: Currently I play MWO with a Pentium D 940 CPU with a CPU perfomance of 5.0 in Windows 8 pro compaired to the 6.9 of Option 2 !

Edited by M E X, 20 July 2013 - 03:44 PM.

[Gremlich Johns]

Mate, just buy a Sager if you can. However, considering where you are, for this game you really DO need to spend the money if you want to play and enjoy it. "I don't have the budget" is just not a good excuse for playing on Low settings (25 FPS about - why bother). You either fork over the needed cash or you don't get to play the game at enjoyable FPS which should be anything over 30 FPS. Your tears will be delicious, just sayin'

[sgt scout]

i just bought an alienware m18. More for rendering my maya work but i did have this game in mind also. Was researching laptops for around a month before buying it. Managed to get it for £1500 brand new due to an alienware clearence sale. The thing was worth £2500 and and looking at the new range, to get the same spec you gota pay like £2700.
Its a mine field out there dude gl !

Dont know exactly what your looking for but this link aint to bad IMO.
http://www.cyberpowe...ategory/laptop/

Im guessing with the 650M and an i5 you still wont be able to play at max graphics settings. Im guessing youl have a nice frame rate on low and maybe even medium. Thats just a guess though.

Another great sight is

http://gpuboss.com/

Youll get the rough idea at what your laptop would be putting out and you can also calculate heat generated. A big problem with alot of laptops is that they get real hot real fast. Its one of the resons i wanted alienware.
This all going by lots of reviews ive read of lots of gaming notebook manufactures.

Edited by sgt scout, 20 July 2013 - 01:07 PM.

[sgt scout]

Just took a look at the asus laptop. That laptop will strugle real bad with the game. My desctop was an i5 with a g force 320. Accourding to gpuboss, the link i shared, the 320 is better than the 610M by quite a bit. On the lowest setting i would got 30-40 fps on the new maps like canyon but on the older maps it could go down to 18 fps. If your buying a gaming notebook just for gaming i dont think the asus will do.

Not sure if cyberpower delivers to your country but you can get a solid laptop for like £800. Again, im not sure what that is in $$$$

[M E X]

Gremlich Johns, on 20 July 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

... playing on Low settings (25 FPS about - why bother)...

Currently I Play MWO on a old refurbished HP DC7600 with a Pentium D 940 CPU which only allows me 10-20 FPS in battles and more than 40 FPS in the mechbay or loged off.

sgt scout, on 20 July 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

... the 320 is better than the 610M by quite a bit. On the lowest setting i would got 30-40 fps on the new maps like canyon but on the older maps it could go down to 18 fps. If your buying a gaming notebook just for gaming i dont think the asus will do...

Thanks for this advise ... Looks like I need to order the MSI GE70

[M E X]

Can anyone help me to compare the NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M 2,0 GB GDDR5 VRAM in the MSI GE 70 with a RADEON HD 7750 2 GB DDR3 ?
http://www.hwcompare...radeon-hd-7750/
http://www.notebookc...0M.71887.0.html
How much performace do I loose by having only 384 instead of 512 SPUs and Kepler instead of a Fermi architecture ?

Edited by M E X, 21 July 2013 - 01:45 AM.

[Dragoon20005]

thing i need to point out since you are comparing these 2 GPUs

the HD7750 is a good entry GPU that will kick the GT640 and GT650 butt in terms of playable FPS

but do note the type of video DDR ram its using, in this case the bottleneck will be the DDR3 ram which will limit the overall speed of the GPU rendering the image.

so your bet is to get GPU that run GDDR5 like the GT650 for this model

[Fuerchtegott]

Pretty sure not the answer you asked for, but I'm pretty sure a very cheap note book and and cheap desktop would give you mobility for work/study and power to play.
Back in the days, when I was young, we carried those 21" Eizos to lanpartys.
And since your from Vienna, you might know about Eierlegendewollmilchsäue, which is, like allways when people ask for notebook prices/ performance, their - in my very personal opinion! - idiotic wish.

[Brother MEX]

Dragoon20005, on 21 July 2013 - 05:06 AM, said:

... but do note the type of video DDR ram its using, in this case the bottleneck will be the DDR3 ram which will limit the overall speed of the GPU rendering the image.
so your bet is to get GPU that run GDDR5 like the GT650 for this model

Currently my bottleneck is the HP DC7600 and its Pentium D CPU !
Because of my old refurbished PC I wont get any disatvantage from having DDR instead of GDDR5 as Video RAM

But thats the Desktop I want to replace with a gaming Notebook.

And the problem is that the Notebook doesnt have a GT650 it has a GT 650M

Edited by Brother MEX, 21 July 2013 - 06:08 AM.

[Byzan]

if looking to get a gaming notebook on a budjet check out the MSI GX60

it has an A10 which is below average as far as CPU goes but it also has an 7970M which is a top of the line AMD mobile GPU

that surely makes the GX60 one of the best bang for buck gaming laptops around.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Byzan, on 21 July 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

if looking to get a gaming notebook on a budjet check out the MSI GX60

it has an A10 which is below average as far as CPU goes but it also has an 7970M which is a top of the line AMD mobile GPU

that surely makes the GX60 one of the best bang for buck gaming laptops around.

Everything I've read indicates that an i7 with a GTX765m is a better all around combo than the 5750m+7970M.

[Dragoon20005]

well it still boils down to budget

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834152407

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16834152401

both are from MSI but there are from different camp

so if you got the money then go for the Intel, otherwise the AMD is still quite decent

[Brother MEX]

Dragoon20005, on 21 July 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

... both are from MSI but there are from different camp

so if you got the money then go for the Intel, otherwise the AMD is still quite decent

Actually here in Austria the MSI GX60-A10797287B is more expensive than the MSI GE70-i550M245 !
http://www.universal...381791-0-tvcmtb
If you look at the website of UNIVERSAL.AT you can check that yourself !

And the GX60 also has the disadvantage of only having a 15.6 display instead of a 17.3 display !
It has twice as much RAM and a bigger HDD, but you dont need that for MWO and can upgrade the GE70 later anyway and the GE70 also has a free mSATA slot for a additional SSD !
If you check the WEIGHT you also note that the GX60 is HEAVIER and THICKER than the GE70 !
In a article about MSI gaming notebooks is also mentioned that a GE70 is more heat efficent than a GX60 ...

Edited by Brother MEX, 22 July 2013 - 05:50 AM.

[Taxxian]

I play on a Dell M6700 with a NVidia K5000M graphics Chip an get 50 FPS, all set to maximum.

Dunno how that compares to the linked machines, but its still a Laptop^^

[LennStar]

Grafik: NVIDIA GeForce 610M: Forget it (Wirklich, brauchst du nicht nachdenken, da läuft nichts aktuelles flüssig, das irgendwie mit Action zu tun hat) GeForce® GTX 650M Top-Grafik mit 2 GB Speicher - Da steckt garantiert DDR3 drin, dabei wäre bei den kleinen Karten 1GB DDR5 besser. Ich vermute, das Niveau ist etwas besser als meine A10-GPU, mit der ich bei 1200x768 und mittleren Einstellungen um die 20FPS liege. (low Settings 40FPS) MWO is unfortunately very demanding - at least at the moment.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Brother MEX, on 22 July 2013 - 05:33 AM, said:

Actually here in Austria the MSI GX60-A10797287B is more expensive than the MSI GE70-i550M245 !
http://www.universal...381791-0-tvcmtb
If you look at the website of UNIVERSAL.AT you can check that yourself !

And the GX60 also has the disadvantage of only having a 15.6 display instead of a 17.3 display !
It has twice as much RAM and a bigger HDD, but you dont need that for MWO and can upgrade the GE70 later anyway and the GE70 also has a free mSATA slot for a additional SSD !
If you check the WEIGHT you also note that the GX60 is HEAVIER and THICKER than the GE70 !
In a article about MSI gaming notebooks is also mentioned that a GE70 is more heat efficent than a GX60 ...

A 650M with an i7 is weaker than the a10 with 7970. I'd recommend the Sager NP7330 at around the $1000-$1200 price range since it has an i7, a GTX765, and a full HD screen.

[Drakari]

I play MWO on an ASUS G55VW (3rd gen i7 + 660M) and get 40-60 FPS, depending on the map, on the "low" preset at 1080p. If that's as much as you need then a previous generation gaming laptop like that would be fine and probably significantly cheaper than the newest ones.

What you chose is up to you though. MSI's GE70 is $1400 and less than 6 lb. if that's the sort of thing you're looking for. If you need something lighter than that the Razer Blade is only 4 lb. with the same CPU and GPU, though a smaller and lower resolution screen.

Overall, we just don't know your exact needs. Will you be plugging it into an external mouse, keyboard and monitor for gaming, but also taking it with you at all times? The Razer Blade is probably a good option since you can have the benefits of low weight for your portable laptop and not need to deal with the small 900p screen when gaming. Do you intend to use it for a more mobile gaming station, without peripherals? The GE70 has a keyboard designed by a gaming keyboard manufacturer, as well as a very nice internal screen and not too much weight (and a good price). Is it basically going to be a desktop computer that you want the option to take with you occasionally? ASUS's G750 line is extremely heavy, but uses that weight for very robust cooling allowing constant use and overclocking potential... though you may have better luck just getting a cheap desktop and an ultrabook.

[Brother MEX]

LennStar, on 22 July 2013 - 06:27 AM, said:

... GeForce® GTX 650M Top-Grafik mit 2 GB Speicher - Da steckt garantiert DDR3 drin ...

The MSI GE70 has 2GB GDDR5 VRAM and at least a GT 650M or a GTX 650M ... the offer from Universal.AT mentions that it has GT 650M graphic but calls it GTX 650M in their offer ?

Drakari, on 22 July 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

... The GE70 has a keyboard designed by a gaming keyboard manufacturer, as well as a very nice internal screen and not too much weight (and a good price). Is it basically going to be a desktop computer that you want the option to take with you occasionally? ...

Actually the Keyboard of the MSI GE70 is of low Quality accourding to a test published here :
http://www.notebookc...ok.76785.0.html

Quote

MSI blunders with the keyboard. It might feature a useful layout and accurate keys for gamers (conic cavity), but that does not justify the wobbly stroke caused by an unstable plate. The adjective “wobbly” can also be used for the case. The plastic construction is pliable in some areas and sensitive to scratches and fingerprints due to the high-gloss finish.

The low weight of the MSI GE70 seems to be the source of its problems with stability ... but despite these shortcommings it seems to be the best possible choice especially as you can buy it at rates of less than 30 Euro per month from Universal.AT

Edited by Brother MEX, 23 July 2013 - 04:45 AM.

[Dragoon20005]

maybe you could take a look at Asus laptops

they make be much more expensive but quality wise i can assure you it dam good

the new G750 blew me away with the nice finish and keyboard feel

[Brother MEX]

Dragoon20005, on 23 July 2013 - 05:51 AM, said:

maybe you could take a look at Asus laptops
they make be much more expensive but quality wise i can assure you it dam good
the new G750 blew me away with the nice finish and keyboard feel

Yes, they are better but they are also too expensive !
http://www.universal...niversalAt-Shop
And even the cheapest asus for gaming would need a monthly rate of 50 Euro instead of the 30 Euro of the MSI GE70 which also looks better than these asus.