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[Quiksix]

If you would, I would like comments/criticism/suggestions for this build. The thinking here is a support mech to hug an Assault, or even act as a center for the entire team to orbit. Thank you in advance for your comments.

CDA-3M

<a href="http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=36&l=b38eb7a725fb83ae9e782998abe6c350203ada0c">CDA-3M</a>

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...be6c350203ada0c

Special thanks to Smurfy for the utility.

[One Medic Army]

Well, first off you get 1 more (in engine) heatsink if you drop 1 pt of armor and get a 225 std.
Next there's no reason not to XL cicadas given their hitboxes.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f333de3ed82e703

Edited by One Medic Army, 20 July 2013 - 01:10 PM.

[Quiksix]

I chose the STD to try and avoid 3 chances to get a kill, I do get that center torso is easy to hit on the CDA. Not to mention, an XL engine of that size leads to speed not necessary with this role. What about the build itself? Would you agree it fits the role, suggested? Any other comments?

Edited by Quiksix, 20 July 2013 - 01:43 PM.

[James The Fox Dixon]

It's not a bad config, but I would have went with an XL engine that is larger rated and adding BAP. Here's the config I came up with.

CDA-3M

[Leafia Barrett]

Quiksix, on 20 July 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

I chose the STD to try and avoid 3 chances to get a kill, I do get that center torso is easy to hit on the CDA. Not to mention, an XL engine of that size leads to speed not necessary with this role. What about the build itself? Would you agree it fits the role, suggested? Any other comments?

If you're in a Cicada, you never want to NOT be able to go fast, regardless of role.
...Hmm. How about this?

[Quiksix]

It seems that this build may have variations, but is valid in it's basis. Anyone care to disagree>


PLease keep in mind, this build is not for standard combat. This is a support mech.

Edited by Quiksix, 20 July 2013 - 05:48 PM.

[Quiksix]

Leafia Barrett, on 20 July 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

If you're in a Cicada, you never want to NOT be able to go fast, regardless of role.
...Hmm. How about this?

The only point of the CDC is the AMS/ECM. Speed is not an issue. The focus of this mech is in the title

Edited by Quiksix, 20 July 2013 - 06:02 PM.

[One Medic Army]

Quiksix, on 20 July 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

It seems that this build may have variations, but is valid in it's basis. Anyone care to disagree>

PLease keep in mind, this build is not for standard combat. This is a support mech.

I'd call a slow cicada completely invalid, except that right now it's the heaviest chassis (sub-stlas) that can carry an ECM.

[Shadey99]

As a Cicada pilot... I don't get your idea of 'support'. I see nothing in that build I couldn't do with a Raven/Spider/Commando. For instance: Support Spidey, It's faster, can face hug a atlas and be under it's visible height, retains the ECM & AMS, can jump (including jumping over mechs)... It does have slightly less of an alpha, but I'd bet money I could sustain 3 MPL on that build within a fairly lengthy engagement. The armor is slightly less, but the speed and maneuverability would counter that.

My idea of a support Cicada is one that can support a team of mechs near it... My Ninja Sniper CDA-3M Cicada for instance offers spotting and fire support. If I was going to stay closer to the rest of my team I would add AMS, BAP, and switch to a Ballistic weapon like a AC2/AC5/UAC5 as the primary punch with ML, SPL, or even SL as backups. Like... Ballistic Support CDA-3M. Not my preferred build, but it can use the AC to disturb the aim of the enemy and the SLs to deal with light mechs. You could switch down to a AC2 and up the lasers to mediums like this: AC2 Support CDA-3M, though anything that isn't an Assault is better off hitting said mechs from behind.

Oh and for the XL vs standard engine... In over 200 games using Cicadas I can count the number of RT/LT engine hits on one hand.

Edited by Shadey99, 20 July 2013 - 08:03 PM.

[Gaan Cathal]

Quiksix, on 20 July 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

The only point of the CDC is the AMS/ECM. Speed is not an issue. The focus of this mech is in the title

You're no help to your Atlas buddy if you're dead. If you're that slow in a Cicada you're dead fast. If you did want to go with a Slocada then you'd still want an XL, since it lets you fit in more firepower to help that buddy of yours. Like so. But you shouldn't because you'll be a Deadcada.

[MonkeyCheese]

Going slower than say 124kph max 2x/4x raven speed in any light or a cicada is suicide.

[Gaan Cathal]

MonkeyCheese, on 20 July 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

Going slower than say 124kph max 2x/4x raven speed in any light or a cicada is suicide.

Going at 125kph in a light or cicada is suicide, there's a reason the -2X and -4X are junk. 140kph is the minimum, really, slower than that and you're just making it too easy to kill you.

[badaa]

[Johnny Reb]

Heh take reg ml and more dbl heat sinks!

[One Medic Army]

If you want to run a slow std engine cicada to assist your assaults, at least do it this way:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a06d41881e7ef1a

[Johnny Reb]

One Medic Army, on 20 July 2013 - 11:36 PM, said:

If you want to run a slow std engine cicada to assist your assaults, at least do it this way:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a06d41881e7ef1a

Bah

[Quiksix]

I didn't think mediums needed to be that fast, I thought that's what lights were for. I'm starting to get it now I think. Thanks all for the suggestions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Warge]

One Medic Army, on 20 July 2013 - 11:36 PM, said:

If you want to run a slow std engine cicada to assist your assaults, at least do it this way:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a06d41881e7ef1a

4*ML do the same work.

[OuttaAmmo NoWai]

If you want a center for the team to circle around, get a D-DC.

[One Medic Army]

Warge, on 21 July 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

4*ML do the same work.

But aren't nearly as funny, plus you can easily do 4ml at 150kph on several light mechs.