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[Jukebox1986]

PanzerMagier, on 25 July 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY TOOK DOWN THE IMAGE... THE IMAGE I DIDN'T SAVE IT :''''''<

For Shame. FOR SHAME MODS!

[Dakkath]

Janus Wealth, on 25 July 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

For Shame. FOR SHAME MODS!

HODOR!

Good luck on today's meeting gents. I gotta work otherwise I'd lurk and listen.

Edited by Dakkath, 25 July 2013 - 12:12 PM.

[Stormwolf]

PanzerMagier, on 25 July 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY TOOK DOWN THE IMAGE... THE IMAGE I DIDN'T SAVE IT :''''''<

[Kraven Kor]

GaussDragon, on 25 July 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

Don't forget that was thanks in large part to a turncoat so blame BoB for lax admin rights.

Well, ultimately, BoB reaped what they had sown in regards to their demise.

Live by the Metagame Haxxoring, Die by the Metagame Haxxoring

"Fountain Alliance is Dead. Long Live Fountain Alliance."

I will be there unless a prior engagement in meatspace interferes.

And no CDU today = me, gone, for good, period. #SAVEMWO or no.

[PanzerMagier]

Stormwolf, on 25 July 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

Sad Panda Magier is sad.

[Chronojam]

Dakkath, on 25 July 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

HODOR!

Good luck on today's meeting gents. I gotta work otherwise I'd lurk and listen.

You can listen to "music" or podcasts at work, right? If not, you can at least perhaps keep up with the text chat at http://wordoflowtax....e.goonfleet.com

Unless you don't have a cushy office job and need to actually be out and about.

There will be recordings, though, for anybody who misses it.

[PoLaR]

xZaOx, on 25 July 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

You think in two months they will fix the huge laundry list of problems, yet it took 3+months for them even look at SRM's which was just a text file adjustment. Keep dreaming. If you think MWO is completely fine, thats great, dont show up, and dont post here if you're not going to be constructive, or add to the debate.

I will show up, and I will show up because I care about MWO. Did I at any point say that that the game was in a pefect state with no problems or bugs? No. I am quite aware of the games current and full state. It's not perfect, with lots of needed change to balancing and changes, but the game Is also not as bad as so many whiners complain that It Is; It's fun, and I have the privilege of playing It when I desire. I would rather this patchy game then no current Mechwarrior real time based combat game.

This **** takes time, so chill the **** out.

[CeeKay Boques]

Gwaihir, on 24 July 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

It is an always has been "Love MWO, Destroy bad players."

This is so utterly silly, why would so many people that have spent in excess of 200$ on a game, and who grew up playing mechwarrior two and the like, want to literally destroy the first mechwarrior game in 10 years?

Just give me one reason that makes anything approaching sense. I know you won't, because most people aren't able to discern a difference between "Stomping your particular bad group in to the ground" and "Stomping the game itself in to the ground," but I had to post anyways. Carry on, you noble crusader always vigilant against the existential goon threat to spend money on this game. (Actually that's not much of a threat anymore, no one's really spending money on anything other than Sarah's mech lately.)

I can help with this. If you make new players, or hell any players feel bad with your mouth (fingers) in game and in forums, you are diminishing the game, your "need a thicker skin" caveat be damned. If you **** on the hardest core of roleplayers, the spergers, the noobs, the baddies with your mouth and fingers, you cause bad feelings for players in the game. This is not offset by the good feelings you and your team feel. When you lie in game "You can have your trial we won't interfere", "We will power down" or verbally attack "You are an (expletive)", you diminish the "good vibes" around the game. This is a goal, to bolster the very reputation that you try to cause a confusing dichotomy around. Do non goons do this? Absolutely. Do all goons do this? No. Do goons pride themselves, record themselves, link themselves doing this? Yep. So that must be where "paladins of sperg" are looking at it wrong. As you say, Goons are their own worst enemy.

[Chronojam]

Shoot blues everyday.

[PanzerMagier]

Fixed the glorious post! Now a forum friendly version! Check sig. ^.^

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Due to a change in work shifts, tomorrow i will no longer make this, 2AM- 4 AM ish then work at 6 does not sound like fun!

Should be some other Snow Ravens there tho.

[Black Templar]

The GoonSquad is the biggest troll in the EVE Online universe. they get close with the devs, and dominate any player-based decision calling to their members. nobody likes the Goons and I want them to stay away from MW:O.
if anything i would like PGI to run community polls about upcoming decisions.

the MW:O community is very vocal as it is and PGI is aware of the issues within the game.

TL;DR We don't need the GoonSquad. Go troll people in EVE.

Edited by Black Templar, 25 July 2013 - 01:56 PM.

[Nicholai Matowski]

Greetings Spherites!

I have read the first 10 or so pages of this thing, and have decided that most likely, the remaining (at the time of this post, 11), are in fact reiteration of percieved problems, as well as attempts by those who actually wish to be constructive to narrow the focus and solidify the agenda, maybe with a bit more amperage placed on the signal rather than the noise.

I came to MWO because I am a battletech fan. Always have been since I first discovered it via MW2 on my playstation. I went over to the tabletop, both minis and rpg, and all the while, continued to play the video games. There were some amazingly good BTU games (Mechcommander imo was top notch; Specifically MC2 which I still play even today, thanks to VBox).

However, I digress. Right now, I am a Lone Wolf. There was one point when I used to be into competitive, squad based, get better gameplay. I have been with one of the best, been with a mediocre, and now, I am rolling alone. One of my main problems with the game, is that it seems to be wallowing. It has no true identity of it's own. We all agree it is not the tabletop. It can be considered a simulator, though we don't know if it really is considering the only mech that has been built is the one in Japan available for 1.5 million dollars, or something like that. However, it is not really an FPS, nor a strategy game.

Ultimately, it seems that the only that can be agreed on as far as what MWO is, is a Polished ****. There are times when it is great fun, but mainly, it is just not enough fun.

Now, I came to MWO because I love Battletech. The idea that when you call out an opponent in a Space Samurai Robot Battle, there is such a thing as honor. The fact that this can be exploited to win battles, is even better. The fact that the latter happens more than the former here? Well, I'd say that just ruined someone's day. C'est la Vie.

For each of the things I listed, MWO sucks at being them. FPS? Nope, even though MWO feels like one more than anything. The lack of strategy combined with the shooting and the double armored mechs remove that. Hell, an AC-20 shot that connects with a light mech is supposed to put it down. An Atlas is lucky, or has a decently skilled pilot if it can do that, and Ironically, in MWO, it doesn't. In every other FPS, if you hit the scout with the Amazing Shot of Doom, they are either dead, or so close to it that it's ridiculous. Here? They can take two or three. But that kills TTL and entire segment of gameplay... Unless we all agree that the scout shouldn't be engaging anything but other scouts. Maybe helping take down a medium.

As a simulator? It works passably as what I would imagine it would feel like to pilot a BTU mech. I mean, old, clunky, slow. Definitely not macross or robotech. However, it doesn't have the feel described in the books. I know, I know. Michael Stackpole was an *** for his exploding reactors... but all things considered, when I am getting torn apart in my atlas by a Raven, not because of pilot skill, but because of game mechanics? It diminishes the experience for me. The fact that I can't just kick the **** out of a circling Raven and end it's life? that is in no way a simulator. Nor is the fact that if I am interpreting the several physics calculators correctly, that I can't drive my raven full force into an Atlas and tear his leg off (crippling my mech at the same to barely able to eject capacity). So it doesn't pass the Simulator Test either.

Tabletop? Don't make me laugh. In 3050 Tech? There were no semi guided LRMS in the IS. They didn't debut until 3057 (Reference: http://www.sarna.net...Semi-Guided_LRM). So, that **** in the 'not a simulator part' either. Because it doesn't simulate the tabletop.

Finally, the question of Strategy. None required. Stick together with FOTM builds, and focus fire. The one and only strategy available anymore. There is no place for the brawler, nor the truly gutsy scout team. The D-DC that acts as an umbrella of cover for his Assault Lance? Gone the way of the dodo bird with the PPC change, that is again, incorrect, which is supposed to be multiple and simultaneous hits from ppc's rather than a single one to short the electrical system effects (Source: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/PPC).

So, what exactly is MWO? Well, hopefully that will be determined tonight, and implemented swiftly.

[Grand Ayatollah Kerensky]

Black Templar, on 25 July 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

The GoonSquad is the biggest troll in the EVE Online universe. they get close with the devs, and dominate any player-based decision calling to their members. nobody likes the Goons and I want them to stay away from MW:O.
if anything i would like PGI to run community polls about upcoming decisions.

the MW:O community is very vocal as it is and PGI is aware of the issues within the game.

TL;DR We don't need the GoonSquad. Go troll people in EVE.

What's Eve Online?

[GaussDragon]

Black Templar, on 25 July 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

The GoonSquad is the biggest troll in the EVE Online universe. they get close with the devs, and dominate any player-based decision calling to their members. nobody likes the Goons and I want them to stay away from MW:O.
if anything i would like PGI to run community polls about upcoming decisions.

Except that when they're right and their opinions are shared by tons of other units that doesn't exactly make them outliers.

[Surtr]

Black Templar, on 25 July 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

The GoonSquad is the biggest troll in the EVE Online universe. they get close with the devs, and dominate any player-based decision calling to their members. nobody likes the Goons and I want them to stay away from MW:O.
if anything i would like PGI to run community polls about upcoming decisions.

the MW:O community is very vocal as it is and PGI is aware of the issues within the game.

TL;DR We don't need the GoonSquad. Go troll people in EVE.

But what the goons can do is mobilize a large number of people with a singular goal. The denizens of the MWO forums on the other hand, are too busy arguing over how to beat a dead horse to focus on more direct fixes. The goons have their problems and downsides, but you have to realize they can do some good.

[Protection]

Black Templar, on 25 July 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:

The GoonSquad is the biggest troll in the EVE Online universe. they get close with the devs, and dominate any player-based decision calling to their members. nobody likes the Goons and I want them to stay away from MW:O.
if anything i would like PGI to run community polls about upcoming decisions.

the MW:O community is very vocal as it is and PGI is aware of the issues within the game.

TL;DR We don't need the GoonSquad. Go troll people in EVE.

Isn't Armitage with you guys now? He was one of our, if not our very best player, and he had a good understanding of the meta without going to extremes as I have sometimes been known to.

Tell him that he should show up for your unit - we'd love to hear his opinions. I don't know much about the Blackstone Knights, but I'm willing to listen to anything he has to say.

[Jacob Roamer]

SO how is this going to work? Is Garth going to answer real questions?

Ill be more then happy to listen in, just not sure what the agenda is.

[Hubis]

SaveMWO is the the cool place to hang out. You can find most of the cool mechbros there. In SaveMWO you can chill and do whatever and just totally relax. "Take it Easy" is the SaveMWO motto, that's how laid back it is. Show up if you want to have a good time. Another reason to show up is if you want to shoot robots.

[101011]

So...our new quarterly CDU is out. I was totally sitting and thinking to myself, "Man, wouldn't it be just fricking awesome if our monthly dev updates were changed to quarterly updates? I mean, we're getting so much info, I have no idea what to do with it."