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Remove The Lousy Pretty Baby Quirk And Add One Hardpoint.


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Poll: removing PB quirk and add 1 hard point for equality. (67 member(s) have cast votes)

do you agree? if you have answer no please explain below why you think so.

  1. Voted yes, please consider op's reasoning. (47 votes [70.15%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 70.15%

  2. no, its p2w (3 votes [4.48%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.48%

  3. no, i have better solution explained below. (4 votes [5.97%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.97%

  4. no, its not equal (1 votes [1.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.49%

  5. no, other reason list below (1 votes [1.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.49%

  6. no, because no..... no reasoning, no logical thinking, no nothing just no. (11 votes [16.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.42%

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#61 oldradagast

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 08:09 AM

The Stalker is a devastating Hero mech, which only goes to illustrate the Stalker love and Awesome hate for 2 mechs that should be comparable.

The Awesome in general needs help, and the Pretty Baby really needs to be the most maneuverable of all the Awesomes vs. have deceleration like a barge. It also needs better hardpoints - no idea what's with Awesomes and laughable hardpoints, especially tiny missile slots.

#62 Grimlox

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:53 AM

Pretty Baby really needs some love. Biggest culprit right now is the decel nerf. This mech was advertised as nimble beyond what you would expect from an assault in the hands of the hero pilot. Yet your quirk is to make it handle like a freight train that derails every time you want to backpedal. We need an accel/decel BUFF on the PB.

#63 Funky Bacon

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:02 PM

Would make a decent Missile boat with a bigger or modular arm launcher *coughKintarocough*. Or at the very least get 1 more Energy HP, even a CT mounted one would be a big plus.

#64 DegeneratePervert

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:26 AM

Giving it a modular arm like the Kintaro would help this mech out quite a bit, but still wouldn't make it "good".

It needs the deceleration quirk removed, and needs it's acceleration and twist speed maxed the F out, so that it can be the only assault capable of outrunning LRM volleys.

#65 King Arthur IV

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:25 AM

with the introduction of the porks head, it is clear that PB is under powered.

There is noway you can say that adding a extra hard point to the PB is pay to win. the porks head has 8 hard points and is allowed to equip a big engine. Pb only has 6 hard points incase you forgot.

WHYWHYWHYWHYWHY does the PB get three nerfs?!?!?!?!?!?
deceleration reduction, reduced hard points, no extra modules or torso twist.

FIX THE PRETTY BABY PLEASE!

#66 Hoboshank

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:43 AM

Everything is working as intended. If you want a "top-tier avatar" buy an atlas.

#67 NRP

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:57 AM

I really think it's the result of the whiny nature of this community, who are quick to call every hero "pay to win". It's clear that PGI was worried about community backlash, and it's also clear the PB suffered from this more than every other hero.

That's why we can't have nice things.

#68 Tremendous Upside

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:20 AM

PB isn't just weak compared to other heros. It's literally the worst assault mech in the game - and its not even close. HGN, Stalker, Atlas, Victor - every one of those mechs in every variant is superior. Even the 8-series AWS's are better. More hardpoints and you don't have to run into stuff to slow down in them...

#69 King Arthur IV

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:54 AM

Spoiler

i totally agree. the standard 8 series are way better in every way.

i only want the pb to be on par not sub par or op. pgi igp devs wtf.. fix it please

Edited by King Arthur IV, 03 October 2013 - 11:38 AM.


#70 Sephlock

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:07 AM

View PostGeneral Taskeen, on 21 July 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

The pilot in 'canon' that used the Pretty Baby could "skip" out of the way of missiles. Give it a "skip out of the way of missiles" ability lol.

Every mech has that installed already; It's called the incoming missile warning.

#71 N a p e s

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:10 AM

How about keeping the silly decel nerf but making this thing turn on a dime?

That at least kind of balances that specific nerf. Adding another harpoint and making the missle tubes in the LA completely modular would get my thumbs up of approval.

#72 Lightfoot

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 12:28 PM

The Pretty Baby hardpoint layout was the result of all the P2W whining heaped on the YLW and Muromets, which was a pretty hot topic back then. It's obviously designed to be a SRM speed-wagon, except then we got HSR and it became too hittable and too easy to core like all Awesomes. The deceleration nerf was just to make sure it wasn't too good at SRM range and become P2W. All that is just my humble opinion.

The video is a bit misleading making it seem like the PB had some special types of lasers, LRM15, and PPC. In most of these encounters you know it wasn't the PB who would win.



Wow! Did you see that Medium Laser? No I don't want my money back, I want the Pretty Baby to have competitive hardpoints and be the 'mech it is in the video. A modular left Missile arm is great and add another energy hardpoint to the right arm or left torso. That would give it some flexibility to be more than an SRM boat.

One more thing! Danielle Peterson of Chisolm's Raiders was famed for piloting the Pretty Baby with unatural agility. So why does the PB have the deceleration quirk? How could it be agile if it couldn't slow down? The quirk defies the lore of the mech.

Edited by Lightfoot, 03 October 2013 - 12:40 PM.


#73 King Arthur IV

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 03:16 AM

i have a new idea, they should make the pretty baby the only awesome to have gone on a diet.

was on jenny craig's diet for 6 weeks and was looking fab.

#74 NRP

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 07:10 AM

I agree the deceleration Nerf is ridiculous and unnecessary, but even if was removed it wouldn't change the fact that the PB is just a terrible Assault mech. Hell, it's a terrible Heavy mech (the Orion is better in every meaningful way, as is the Jager). The PB needs much more than just some agility enhancements.

What the PB needs is to be able to carry enough hard hitting pinpoint weapons with enough heat efficiency to be able to compete with the other Assault mechs, all of which can carry low heat, high damage ballistic load outs.

#75 Lightfoot

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 08:32 AM

View PostNRP, on 10 October 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

I agree the deceleration Nerf is ridiculous and unnecessary, but even if was removed it wouldn't change the fact that the PB is just a terrible Assault mech. Hell, it's a terrible Heavy mech (the Orion is better in every meaningful way, as is the Jager). The PB needs much more than just some agility enhancements.

What the PB needs is to be able to carry enough hard hitting pinpoint weapons with enough heat efficiency to be able to compete with the other Assault mechs, all of which can carry low heat, high damage ballistic load outs.


QFT

All the Awesomes, including the Pretty Baby should have the quirk that they get better cooling to counter the effects of Heat Scale, DHS at abnormal 1.4 rating, and ERPPCs at normal 15 heat rating.

This because they all lack the ability to carry the cool running Ballistics which all the heat nerfs have made required equipment for Assault level mechs. The Ballistic weapon in essence acts like 5 full 2.0 double heatsinks, which you can't fit on the Awesome, would be like 30 DHS 1.4's.

We need faster Mech fixes when the game is changed by upgrades like HSR, or drastic nerfs like DHS 1.4, Heat Scale, heat boosted PPCs and ERPPCs. Ignoring these problems makes players question buying more Mechs for fear they will not be supported when bugs and imbalances eliminate them from competition.

#76 juxstapo

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:00 AM

View PostKing Arthur IV, on 21 July 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

-Fang: has a paint job.


BUAAHAHHAHHA! Nailed it!

...and yea, I own a Fang. :D

#77 King Arthur IV

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:16 AM

you might be the first to have picked that up :D





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