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[Slaytronic]

Ok a new poll suggesting the K variant to get the ecm.
Now that ECM is easy to deal with, I suggest they give the jenner a ECM variant.
Since they took it out so long ago I think now is a perfect time to bring it back.

[Slaytronic]

Come on people lets get some votes going
btw no i do not drive a jenner very often but, I would just like to see this mech be a decent scout also.

[Unbound Inferno]

• JR7-K - The JR7-K adds a higher degree of survivability to the Jenner by upgrading the armor to Ferro-Fibrous, while removing a half ton of the armor. This provides virtually the same armor protection while adding CASE to the SRM-4 ammunition. BV (1.0) = 694, BV (2.0) = 889^[12]

Sorry, not in the loadout.

• JR10-X - A Experimental variant of the Jenner developed during the Jihad. It was a test-bed chassis for LAW on New Samarkand in 3072. Using the JR7-K as its base, with extensive revisions. Its internal structure was changed for a Composite Internal Structure. Its engine changed out for a 245 Rated XL Engine, which helps maintain the Jenner's original speed. The designer moved the forward jutting cockpit to a Torso Mounted Cockpit. Its missile weaponry was completely dropped in favor of increasing the 'Mechs medium laser armament up to six Medium Lasers. Jump Jets increased from base module to seven. For the 'Mechs protection, it has an Angel ECM and its hull has been encased with seven tons of Light Ferro-Fibrous Armor. For its stealth capacities, the 'mech has been given an Experimental Null-Signature System. Only seven of these 'Mechs were known to have been built. BV (1.0) = ???, BV (2.0) = 1,452^[13]

This one has an ECM, but not one that exists in this timeframe.

Edited by Unbound Inferno, 22 July 2013 - 02:05 PM.

[Slaytronic]

Unbound Inferno, on 22 July 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

• JR7-K - The JR7-K adds a higher degree of survivability to the Jenner by upgrading the armor to Ferro-Fibrous, while removing a half ton of the armor. This provides virtually the same armor protection while adding CASE to the SRM-4 ammunition. BV (1.0) = 694, BV (2.0) = 889^[12]

Sorry, not in the loadout.

• JR10-X - A Experimental variant of the Jenner developed during the Jihad. It was a test-bed chassis for LAW on New Samarkand in 3072. Using the JR7-K as its base, with extensive revisions. Its internal structure was changed for a Composite Internal Structure. Its engine changed out for a 245 Rated XL Engine, which helps maintain the Jenner's original speed. The designer moved the forward jutting cockpit to a Torso Mounted Cockpit. Its missile weaponry was completely dropped in favor of increasing the 'Mechs medium laser armament up to six Medium Lasers. Jump Jets increased from base module to seven. For the 'Mechs protection, it has an Angel ECM and its hull has been encased with seven tons of Light Ferro-Fibrous Armor. For its stealth capacities, the 'mech has been given an Experimental Null-Signature System. Only seven of these 'Mechs were known to have been built. BV (1.0) = ???, BV (2.0) = 1,452^[13]

This one has an ECM, but not one that exists in this timeframe.

you must not have been here in closed beta and early open beta the jenner was going to get ecm but everyone threw a fit and pgi changed they're mind canon or not they were going to add it so your comment sorry is useless

[Unbound Inferno]

Slaytronic, on 22 July 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

you must not have been here in closed beta and early open beta the jenner was going to get ecm but everyone threw a fit and pgi changed they're mind canon or not they were going to add it so your comment sorry is useless

In Battletech - EVERYONE can have ECM.

You must not realize that, or you'd see how foolish it is to ask such silly things.

[MasterErrant]

personally I think there should be a variant of every chassis that has it. the way the devs have parseed out engine size and ecm is arbitrary and lame.

[Unbound Inferno]

Engine size is another problem actually...

As I understand Lights got restricted to limit max speed because the game can't handle it, but I don't think any other chassis got reduced engine sizes as well.

This leaves a disproportionate mess between speeds - why Heavies and Assaults can chase down Mediums for example.

But hey, PGI wanted it that way...

[Joseph Mallan]

Unbound Inferno, on 22 July 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

In Battletech - EVERYONE can have ECM.

You must not realize that, or you'd see how foolish it is to ask such silly things.

And in BattleTech that was fine. In MWO, hat would have killed the game. AND when ECM was going to be launched I was supporting all chassis having it! hen it hit and I was glad they limited who could carry ECM. I still think the Stalker should get one as it is a Canon Chassis but I don't get to make the calls.

[xenoglyph]

Where's the option to completely kill ECM as it currently exists and make into a proper system?

Do that first and you can strap it onto your JR7-K.

[Unbound Inferno]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 July 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

And in BattleTech that was fine. In MWO, hat would have killed the game. AND when ECM was going to be launched I was supporting all chassis having it! hen it hit and I was glad they limited who could carry ECM. I still think the Stalker should get one as it is a Canon Chassis but I don't get to make the calls.

That's fine. Gimme my Catapult with it, and JJs - and all the missiles I can carry... with a TAG.

[stjobe]

The Jenner does not need ECM, it's already top dog of the lights (and has always been, except when ECM+Streak madness made 3L arguably the better choice).

That's why we opposed it getting ECM the first time around, and it's still a valid point.

So no, no ECM for Jenners. They simply do not need it, and giving it to them would even further marginalize the lighter ECM 'mechs like the COM-2D (who runs a 2D these days?)

[xenoglyph]

stjobe, on 22 July 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

who runs a 2D these days?

The same people that run Hunchbacks, Dragons, Catapults, and Awesomes.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

ECM is still perhaps the largest travesty in this game. Seismic is right up there too.

We need an overhaul of ECM before anymore mechs get it.

[Screech]

xenoglyph, on 22 July 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

The same people that run Hunchbacks, Dragons, Catapults, and Awesomes.

So I guess we need to give them all an ECM variant, as it seems that ECM is to balance mechs, not to help in a role in the game.

[Bunko]

No, and I say this being a Jenner K pilot. As I said in the first poll, giving any Jenner ECM would make the Raven 3L unwanted.

Jenners have everything going for it except ECM currently. Giving the Jenner K ECM that is already faster, 1 more energy, and JJ enabled would kill the whole Raven class being the Raven 3L is the only Raven worth anything.

[Joseph Mallan]

Unbound Inferno, on 22 July 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

That's fine. Gimme my Catapult with it, and JJs - and all the missiles I can carry... with a TAG.

Like I said, on TT that would be fine.

[Majorfatboy]

I vote yes. A Jenner with ECM is not going to make all other light mechs worthless. To this day, I still see all the "Bad" mechs in game on a regular basis: Commandos, Dragons, Centurions, non-ECM Ravens, Etc.

Giving the Jenner ECM is not going to stop players from driving what they want.
Besides, Every other light currently in game has an ECM variant, it's time for the Jenner to join in.

[Roland]

Herpa derpa
no

[Purlana]

Do we really need ECM varients of everymech?

[Deathlike]

Given that BAP counters ECM... this is kind of moot. Rework ECM first before I even reconsider this terrible idea.