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#1 RickySpanish

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:36 AM

What classic Mechs would you like to see included in a hypothetical second Phoenix Pack? Once there are enough suggestions someone could start a poll and maybe get it noticed by PGI!

My suggestions would be:

Marauder
Griffin
Phoenix Hawk
Rifleman

#2 General Taskeen

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:40 AM

All of the Mechs

http://www.sarna.net...Project_Phoenix

Edited by General Taskeen, 30 July 2013 - 07:40 AM.


#3 blacklp

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:40 AM

I'm not sure of which, but I believe a bunch of those remain unseen and would not be able to made in the game.

#4 Tennex

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:42 AM

not many interesting light mechs though.

and they ahve to do 4 mechs of each weight class

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:48 AM

Going with the premise of there being one of each weight class..

Valkyrie/Panther (though game mechanics would be the death knell of a slow light mech)
Griffin/Wolverine (though we have already seen concept art of the Wolvie, so that would probably be where the smart MCs are)
Rifleman/Archer/Warhammer/Marauder
Zeus

#6 Truesight

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 08:47 AM

Warhammer, Marauder, Rifleman,... are out, they are property of Harmony Gold.

I do not think there will be an agreement with this company. Granted it is sad, that we will not see those around.

#7 James The Fox Dixon

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:58 AM

View PostTruesight, on 30 July 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

Warhammer, Marauder, Rifleman,... are out, they are property of Harmony Gold.

I do not think there will be an agreement with this company. Granted it is sad, that we will not see those around.


Harmony Gold does not own those mechs nor do that have the rights to make derivatives of those mechs. The rights are own by Big West/Studio Nue. This is why Shadow Chronicles' mechs are based off of Mospeada mechs and all the characters from Macross were redesigned.

#8 Ralgas

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 12:00 PM

View PostJames The Fox Dixon, on 30 July 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:


Harmony Gold does not own those mechs nor do that have the rights to make derivatives of those mechs. The rights are own by Big West/Studio Nue. This is why Shadow Chronicles' mechs are based off of Mospeada mechs and all the characters from Macross were redesigned.


Which doesn't stop troll litigation for fast settlement, if you don't believe they will google the HG vs hasbro argument and try to tell us they wont........

Edited by Ralgas, 30 July 2013 - 12:01 PM.


#9 James The Fox Dixon

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 12:02 PM

View PostRalgas, on 30 July 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:


Which doesn't stop troll litigation for fast settlement, if you don't believe they will google the HG vs hasbro argument and try to tell us they wont........


True, but then Hasbro has much deeper pockets than HG. Hasbro is not adverse to taking the case all the way to trial and eat the costs to put HG in its place.

#10 Shadey99

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 01:43 PM

View PostTruesight, on 30 July 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

Warhammer, Marauder, Rifleman,... are out, they are property of Harmony Gold.

I do not think there will be an agreement with this company. Granted it is sad, that we will not see those around.


I've said this before, but last year Catalyst Game Labs re-released a Marauder and they have yet to be sued by HG. It's also not the ugly Phoenix design, looking far more like the original macross design (though some people dislike it even still).

#11 Sadistic Savior

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 02:10 PM

View PostRickySpanish, on 30 July 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

What classic Mechs would you like to see included in a hypothetical second Phoenix Pack? Once there are enough suggestions someone could start a poll and maybe get it noticed by PGI!

My suggestions would be:

Marauder
Griffin
Phoenix Hawk
Rifleman

Marauder for sure.

The Rifleman is already in the game. It is called the Jagermech now.

Oh, and I would love to see the Archer in that list. Though it will probably be mutilated beyond recognition. It has a very distinct silhouette that cannot be copied easily.

#12 MuonNeutrino

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:00 PM

Marauder, marauder, marauder, and marauder.

...what? That's 4 mechs. :)

And yes, I know, it won't happen, but I can still wish...

#13 Angel of Annihilation

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:12 PM

View PostIAN WAGNER, on 30 July 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Going with the premise of there being one of each weight class..

Valkyrie/Panther (though game mechanics would be the death knell of a slow light mech)
Griffin/Wolverine (though we have already seen concept art of the Wolvie, so that would probably be where the smart MCs are)
Rifleman/Archer/Warhammer/Marauder
Zeus


Both Griffin and Wolverine have been announced as in the works, just look at the upcoming features.

Rifleman/Archer/Warhammer/Marauder are all Harmony Gold stuff from Robotech so I doublt we will see it anytime soon if at all. Too much legal mumbo jumbo going on with them for PGI to risk getting sued even if they won, the cost would be very high.

Personally I want an Exterminator, Firestarter, Panther, Wolfhound, Guillotine and Thug.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostJames The Fox Dixon, on 30 July 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:


True, but then Hasbro has much deeper pockets than HG. Hasbro is not adverse to taking the case all the way to trial and eat the costs to put HG in its place.


Which misses the point, pgi does not and hg is ready to test even the big boys. Russ has already said not for the forseeable future but anything is possible down the track

#15 James The Fox Dixon

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 03:37 PM

View PostRalgas, on 30 July 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

Which misses the point, pgi does not and hg is ready to test even the big boys. Russ has already said not for the forseeable future but anything is possible down the track


You're correct, but then PGI should wait for the HG vs. Hasbro suit to go through the courts before attempting to put those mechs in.

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:54 PM

Panther, Urbie, Enforcer, Griffin

Redesign the Marauder, Crusader, Rifleman, Warhammer to look nothing like Macross and they are fair game too.

Crusader might be kind of hard since it has weapons in the legs.

Edited by PanchoTortilla, 30 July 2013 - 05:59 PM.


#17 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:37 PM

Warhammer
Marauder
Phoenix Hawk
Longbow

#18 Monky

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:19 AM

Probably going to be;

Valkyrie/Stinger or Wasp
Wolverine/Pheonix Hawk
Warhammer/Marauder
Longbow/Marauder II

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 01:25 AM

Give me a marauder covered in $ signs and I will get out my credit card :)

#20 xengk

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:23 AM

View PostJames The Fox Dixon, on 30 July 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:


True, but then Hasbro has much deeper pockets than HG. Hasbro is not adverse to taking the case all the way to trial and eat the costs to put HG in its place.

I rather that Hasbro buy up HG and the image/toy rights to BattleTech.
Then we can start seeing more BT toy and possibly a movie adaptation, if Hasbro can spend money on a Battleship movie, why not MechWarrior?
Or a MechWarrior x Transformer (heresy?) crossover merchandising.

Back on topic.
Not too familiar with Unseen, based on Sarna I would like to see
Firebee
Phoenix Hawk
Hellhound
Crusader





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