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[Fishhawk]

Tabrias07, on 01 August 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

There are 3 mechs in that image you cannot see from cockpit view.

I still wouldn't equate that to OMFG3PVISOP!!!!!!

You also have limited view based on torso movement.

[Tabrias07]

Gallowglas, on 01 August 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

Seriously, some of you over-react to everything. If you get grape jelly on your toast instead of strawberry, do you proclaim doomsday?

No, I ask for what I ordered, or my money back.

[Legend_]

I did 3 drops and, after the first couple of minutes in each drop, most people switched over to using 1PV rather than 3PV. I think that speaks volumes about the feasibility and tactical advantage supposedly given by 3PV.

[Belorion]

Also the 3pv drones give you away across the entire map. They are like little red blinking here I am's. Much worse than the Atlas eye used to be,

[Farpenoodle]

You gain a slight awareness boost but you give away your position. Also actually fighting in it is a huge no. I'm leaning on the side of wait and see. But this is a pretty reasonable implementation so far.

[xCico]

Here

Edited by 19cico96, 01 August 2013 - 09:49 AM.

[Bosie]

Weebi, on 01 August 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

Jump sniping is made much easier with this mode. You can scan anything above a hill and see movement before you have to leave cover. However accuracy greatly diminishes as when in 3rd person your arms are locked and you seem to have a bit of a reticle shake when moving. You can even peak around corners as well as dodge incoming missiles far easier though. Defiantly easy mode.

No, my mech covers my cross hairs when using jump jets. I tried to use this camera but I've found my negative issues than positive. It's quite a gimmick.

[Huge]

It never ceases to amaze me the capacity of people to forget. PGI said no 3PV. It doesn't even matter if it is terrible or vastly inferior. It was PROMISED when they were selling Founder's.

It was a term of the contract between them and us. The fact is they lied and took our money while breaking their word. You defending them for this proves you have the memory of a gold fish or no spine. Being lied to your face and hands in your pocket is ok.

Pathetic.

[Gallowglas]

Tabrias07, on 01 August 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

No, I ask for what I ordered, or my money back.

So play "hardcore" mode. Problem solved. Nobody is telling you that you have to order toast with strawberry jelly, so stop freaking out about its existence.

Look, I was concerned as well, but this is really not so bad. It's not a "superior in every way" view mode. In fact, 1PV seems to be the better mode for most situations.

[jakucha]

Let's not forget the fairly sizable BLINKING camera following third person users around at all times, hovering slightly above their mech. Which is a good thing.

Huge, on 01 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

It never ceases to amaze me the capacity of people to forget. PGI said no 3PV. It doesn't even matter if it is terrible or vastly inferior. It was PROMISED when they were selling Founder's.

It was a term of the contract between them and us. The fact is they lied and took our money while breaking their word. You defending them for this proves you have the memory of a gold fish or no spine. Being lied to your face and hands in your pocket is ok.

Pathetic.

Take a break Huge. You're angry and making things up. They never made a promise.

Edited by jakucha, 01 August 2013 - 09:52 AM.

[Tabrias07]

Fishhawk, on 01 August 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

I still wouldn't equate that to OMFG3PVISOP!!!!!!

You also have limited view based on torso movement.

How about this?

[Roland]

KitK, on 01 August 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

Is this being streamed anywhere?

Never mind, finally searched for it right

http://www.twitch.tv/igp

Holy crap, the 3PV camera isn't even CLOSE to the mech. It's basically exactly what we had in MW4 3PV, which is to say the advantage it conveys is immense.

[Tabrias07]

Gallowglas, on 01 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

So play "hardcore" mode. Problem solved. Nobody is telling you that you have to order toast with strawberry jelly, so stop freaking out about its existence.

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have you tried playing 8mans lately?

[Gallowglas]

Huge, on 01 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

It never ceases to amaze me the capacity of people to forget. PGI said no 3PV. It doesn't even matter if it is terrible or vastly inferior. It was PROMISED when they were selling Founder's.

It was a term of the contract between them and us. The fact is they lied and took our money while breaking their word. You defending them for this proves you have the memory of a gold fish or no spine. Being lied to your face and hands in your pocket is ok.

Pathetic.

Show me this supposed contract that was signed by both parties which indicated that 3PV would never enter the game in any form. It doesn't exist. PGI said they had no plans to implement 3PV and that their commitment to 1PV was firm. That's it. If you don't understand the difference between that and "we promise we'll never, ever put 3PV in at all in any form", I don't know what to tell you.

[FrDrake]

Tabrias07, on 01 August 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

How about this?

Dude don't go up there, there's an awesome waiting to snipe you.

[Roland]

Gallowglas, on 01 August 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

Look, I was concerned as well, but this is really not so bad. It's not a "superior in every way" view mode. In fact, 1PV seems to be the better mode for most situations.

I'm not sure what game you're playing, but it's not MWO.. because 3PV is obviously a huge advantage.

[jakucha]

Tabrias07, on 01 August 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

How about this?

What you can't see is your blinking camera "STUDENT DRIVER" is hovering above you. Doesn't fly too high above you but it's easy to spot.

Edited by jakucha, 01 August 2013 - 09:55 AM.

[Fishhawk]

D34K, on 01 August 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

Being able too see over hills and around corners is hardly minimal.

That's fine, I'll just see their 3PV drone peaking over the ridge.

[Gallowglas]

Tabrias07, on 01 August 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

have you tried playing 8mans lately?

Last night. Probably 10 matches. Not one failed match. That's not to say it never happens, but what's your fear here? That 3PV will be so popular that people abandon hardcore queues?

[FrDrake]

So they both know where the other is, when if he had stuck with 1pv then neither would know where the other was. Not sure if that's better or worse or just different. My only problem with 3pv is splitting the queues up more.