43 replies to this topic

[Bosie]

Thoughts and opinions?

Edited by Bosie, 01 August 2013 - 01:04 PM.

[Multitallented]

this game is ruined cause 3PV.

[Dock Steward]

Both your ideas defeat the purpose of even having it in the game, which is for people who prefer that style. Not people who prefer that style until someone takes it from them

I don't want 3rd person because it will split the player base because it will be a separate queue, but it will be a separate queue.

3rd person point of view will have zero effect on those who want to play 1st person.

[zorak ramone]

Voted "no" to all of the above, because 3rd person shouldn't even be in the game.

This game was advertised as 1st person only, and it should stay that way.

1st person only queues are also really bad because they will split the (already small) community.

3rd person will, along with seismic, kill the one thing (tactically) this MW game had over prior MW games: the ability to use cover for stealth.

3rd person is a ridiculous concept and looks silly.

3rd person is the way this game dies.

Edited by zorak ramone, 01 August 2013 - 01:31 PM.

[xRatas]

This is actually good 3pv suggestion. Although not MC only, and give a few dozen for free for every new account. Consumable, se needs to be replaced just like UAV, but follows you whole game, unless destroyed.

Could be shot down, no zoom option, hides crosshair and hud in general when you view through it, and takes a module slot. I could live with that. 5second delay for changing viewpoint maybe, so not that useful for sniping.

Edited by xRatas, 01 August 2013 - 01:33 PM.

[Gulinborsti]

The only good 3PV suggestion is no 3PV at all.

[Khobai]

3rd person shouldnt be in the game, most players dont want it in the game, but PGI is convinced it will somehow help new players learn the game. When in reality it will have the opposite effect by making them rely on a gimmicky mechanic as a crutch instead of learning the proper way to determine which way your legs are facing relative to your torso. Potential for abuse from experienced players is also pretty high. Its just another example of PGI implementing something overcomplicated that doesnt even need to be in the game and ultimately does more harm than good. Like boating penalties. And ECM super stealthmode.

There is no reason this game can't be good simple fun again like it was last year. Please just focus on the core gameplay (improved gamemodes, better weapon balance, more maps/mechs) and stop adding all these frivolous bells and whistles :\

Edited by Khobai, 01 August 2013 - 01:42 PM.

[DeeBeeP]

I'm sorry but this sounds completely stupid to me. I don't blame PGI for putting in 3PV because some players really prefer that experience. Of course I don't want players who do use 3PV to have an advantage but I'm impressed how PGI has implemented it thus far.

You may be able to peak over that hill you're standing behind but the enemy definitely sees your 3PV drone and can tell when you're about to crest by watching your drone move. You lose the minimap when in 3PV and have to rely on your situational awareness and larger mechs have a bigger blindspot around their legs.

You want to turn it into a module and charge money? **** that, thats stupid. Let the people who want to use 3PV use it and I will gladly destroy them because they decide to give up their map and run around with a giant flashing beacon telling me where they are.

Edited by DeeBeeP, 01 August 2013 - 02:01 PM.

[Mystere]

DeeBeeP, on 01 August 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

Of course I don't want players using 3PV to have an advantage and I'm impressed how PGI has implemented it ...

Psst! Did you just break your NDA?

Edit: Oops! A preview is in the public server.

Edited by Mystere, 01 August 2013 - 02:23 PM.

[xRatas]

Gulinborsti, on 01 August 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

The only good 3PV suggestion is no 3PV at all.

While I agree this, it seems 3PV is coming and it doesn't matter if we like it or not. The OP's suggestion for most parts is good when taking in that cosideration. At least it is much more constructive than yelling everything is crap at this point.

[Ralgas]

where's the "other" option? non destructible module, free from account creation. Works in with the "training tool" pgi wants for torso/legs, adds a level of module training (with the tutorial support that's supposed to be coming with ui 2.0 ) and still adds a an extra level of penalty at higher levels for using it (module choices)

Edit: you make it destructible and it's only going to lead to griefing from the "leetzors" who don't like it, shooting down friendlies

Edited by Ralgas, 01 August 2013 - 10:31 PM.

[Krivvan]

Khobai, on 01 August 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

3rd person shouldnt be in the game, most players dont want it in the game

Actually judging by the reaction to how it was implemented on the PTS, most players are fine with it.

[Windies]

Krivvan, on 01 August 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

Actually judging by the reaction to how it was implemented on the PTS, most players are fine with it.

Give it time, Once people learn how to effectively toggle it and make use of the advantages it gives while side-stepping the disadvantages.

[Ghostwolfe]

Dock Steward, on 01 August 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

Both your ideas defeat the purpose of even having it in the game, which is for people who prefer that style. Not people who prefer that style until someone takes it from them

I don't want 3rd person because it will split the player base because it will be a separate queue, but it will be a separate queue.

3rd person point of view will have zero effect on those who want to play 1st person.

If it is NOT a separate queue, which is always a possibility this being beta, then it WILL affect players who play 1st person by giving the 3PV players a distinct advantage in sight. Like you I agree it will divide the player base either way. It is a bad idea imo.

[Nauht]

Hmmm.. my big robot pooping out smaller robots.

[StandingCow]

Making it cost is a really bad idea... real life money for a distinct battlefield advantage... no no no

[M0rpHeu5]

i once beleaved that 3PV is the worst think that huppened to this game but then before this, the weapon restrictions came and ruined it A LOT more so i don't really care about 3PV any more.

NO to all 3 options

Edited by M0rpHeu5, 02 August 2013 - 12:56 AM.

[Dock Steward]

Ghostwolfe, on 01 August 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

If it is NOT a separate queue, which is always a possibility this being beta, then it WILL affect players who play 1st person by giving the 3PV players a distinct advantage in sight. Like you I agree it will divide the player base either way. It is a bad idea imo.

The devs said people who wish to play 1st person wont be forced to play with or against 3rd. I took that to mean separate queue.

[Roland]

Dock Steward, on 01 August 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

3rd person point of view will have zero effect on those who want to play 1st person.

Until they enable it in every queue.

[Khobai]

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The devs said people who wish to play 1st person wont be forced to play with or against 3rd. I took that to mean separate queue.

Its dumb. Why divide your player base over something as trivial as 3rd person? Especially when most players DONT want it in the game. And we all agree its not gonna help new players.

My guess is PGI will realize its dumb to divide the community, and theyll just force 3rd person on everyone against our will. It's sad, but we all know its coming...

Edited by Khobai, 02 August 2013 - 05:26 AM.