

For Those Who Power Off Instead Of Helping Until The End.
#61
Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:59 AM
#62
Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:55 AM
You just got owned on every single statement by Appogee... Nuf said. This topic is also related to many other threads complaining about KDR-etards who hid for no reason.
prrrrrrraaaaaaa
Edited by Crasox, 22 August 2013 - 05:56 AM.
#63
Posted 22 August 2013 - 06:02 AM
A 143, on 21 August 2013 - 08:59 AM, said:
I am trying to level a jenner and is so frustating when those KDR-etards hide having my mech locked for the rest of the match. Is not like I have many mechs and I can simply move on to the next available one so PLEASE go die like a ninja or expect me to call out your position when you are going to hide.
#64
Posted 05 September 2013 - 07:00 AM
I PUG a lot and at particular times you have groups of premades rampage through and roll poorly matched groups pretty badly. The matchmaker tends to stick high ELO people in a group of low ELO to "balance the sides". I have seen a few of those 11-0 matches the OP was talking about. I can understand the level of frustration a participating pilot can experience when your team ends up being a lemming factory product. It is tempting to just go off and hide at such times, especially when you face those well coordinated premade groups that you KNOW you cant hope to hurt with just 1 mech.
If you have done your best and face that particular kind of skilled and coordinated enemy then it should be ok to type in "I am going to hide, cap the base and end the match quickly". This should be a elegant solution for all sides involved. With 8+ guys sitting on the cap point it takes less than a minute to finish.
There should be no reason to try to force your momentary team mate into suicide for a minute or two of time saved. It is annoying to have to wait, yes, but if it is "honor" that sends you in alone for the last charge then you should have no issues in "being the better man". If you really cant wait then tell the other team they need to cap base and end it. Maybe adding in that you want to level your Jenner will help them find mercy.
There should also be no reason to call out your team mates position should the enemy decide they want that kill so bad that they end up searching the whole map. THAT is their own form of selfishness that should not be rewarded at all. It is bloodthirsty and not very "honorable". In such cases you should enjoy the time your team mate is wasting for honorless, yakuza ELO-tards.
There are more important aspects of playing in a community than how fast you can hop in and out of your mech and how many games you can fit into an hour.
I also agree with the fact that it is not ok for someone to not participate at all and go AFK to try and milk C-bills and xp without participation. Reporting them and getting their account blocked is far more effective a lesson than calling out their positions. When you call out a position you cause an effect for one match only, nothing more.
#65
Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:01 AM
I understand the waste peoples time concept, also the honor concept.. it is none of your business to decide how others choose to play and calling them out is like throwing them under the bus.
Screw your 'mech, it's busted and locked until the end of the match. Get another chassis and don't tread on other peoples game.
#66
Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:14 AM
A 143, on 21 August 2013 - 08:59 AM, said:
Is funny to see how people rage when you call out their position... I would never do it if the guy is hidding because he is attempting to cap or trying to to do something else BUT... if he is simply hidding just because I WILL CALL OUT THEIR POSITION ALL THE TIME.
-It is also against the rules to be sitting afk during the match so for those who rage on me for calling out your position because you decided to go AFK and waste the rest of the time go ahead and report me.
#67
Posted 05 September 2013 - 09:42 AM
#68
Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:39 AM
Mutaroc, on 04 August 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:
If your team is already losing by 6 or 7, why would you hide and waste people's time until time runs off?
Keep in mind that there might be some situations where "digging in" is a viable strategy for your surviving team-mate who winds up facing six or seven mechs after everyone else on the team has sealed their fate.
Case on point: today, I wound up as the sole mech left in conquest, other team had like five mechs left. I didn't hide: I plopped myself on Sigma and sweated it out. The final score was 748 - 750 (they won.) Staying on base and keeping as much time running as I could was my only chance (other than roaming around, facing certain suicide, certain loss, in a 1v5 battle.)
Another time: I got dropped into Alpine (Assault mode) in my heaviest and slowest Atlas. Eleven team-mates, in lighter mechs, zoom off into the distance, a veritable Charge of the Light Brigade. I had a choice of either waddling out into the open a couple of thousand meters behind (certain death) or, hunkering down near the base to defend. In the end, it was me versus four, defending the base. As the timer wound down, I was SO close to getting the last kill it was || THAT close. With two or three seconds left, their last Atlas got the shot.
Today in Tourmaline, I got pinned down in a bad spot near the center of the map. LRMs all around. I couldn't move, couldn't get a shot, so to break the LRM lock I shut down. Waited for about a minute while the fire around me died down, then powered up and got three kills. We won that one, 12-9 I think.
Even if someone is just being an *** and really "hiding" (I recall that one guy in TKZ who always did that) then there's an easy solution: quit the match and launch another game. Nobody's forcing you to stick around. From the FAQ:
"Team Treason
Treasonous provision of information to enemy combatants, also known as "bird-doging" [sic] is forbidden. This involves a player using the in-game chat to provide the enemy team with the locations of their own team mates. While we appreciate that some players may wish to have a round end early by calling out the location of an AFK team-mate, the risk that this could be used against an active participant of the match to deny them the use of cover and movement makes this a form of a griefing. You may declare a teammate AFK but not their coordinates or position."
I'm never AFK, but rest assured I'm playing, and if a "team mate" calls out my position, they WILL be reported.
Edited by Hellen Wheels, 06 September 2013 - 09:05 AM.
#69
Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:24 PM
Hellen Wheels, on 06 September 2013 - 08:39 AM, said:
Case on point: today, I wound up as the sole mech left in conquest, other team had like five mechs left. I didn't hide: I plopped myself on Sigma and sweated it out. The final score was 748 - 750 (they won.) Staying on base and keeping as much time running as I could was my only chance (other than roaming around, facing certain suicide, certain loss, in a 1v5 battle.)
Another time: I got dropped into Alpine (Assault mode) in my heaviest and slowest Atlas. Eleven team-mates, in lighter mechs, zoom off into the distance, a veritable Charge of the Light Brigade. I had a choice of either waddling out into the open a couple of thousand meters behind (certain death) or, hunkering down near the base to defend. In the end, it was me versus four, defending the base. As the timer wound down, I was SO close to getting the last kill it was || THAT close. With two or three seconds left, their last Atlas got the shot.
Today in Tourmaline, I got pinned down in a bad spot near the center of the map. LRMs all around. I couldn't move, couldn't get a shot, so to break the LRM lock I shut down. Waited for about a minute while the fire around me died down, then powered up and got three kills. We won that one, 12-9 I think.
Even if someone is just being an *** and really "hiding" (I recall that one guy in TKZ who always did that) then there's an easy solution: quit the match and launch another game. Nobody's forcing you to stick around. From the FAQ:
"Team Treason
Treasonous provision of information to enemy combatants, also known as "bird-doging" [sic] is forbidden. This involves a player using the in-game chat to provide the enemy team with the locations of their own team mates. While we appreciate that some players may wish to have a round end early by calling out the location of an AFK team-mate, the risk that this could be used against an active participant of the match to deny them the use of cover and movement makes this a form of a griefing. You may declare a teammate AFK but not their coordinates or position."
I'm never AFK, but rest assured I'm playing, and if a "team mate" calls out my position, they WILL be reported.
I agree with what you ahve said because there are situations where is not in your hands... The example at Alpine at least you went back to the base and defended instead of powering off in the far away lands

On tourmaline you were stuck and that was at least a reason but some will simply shut off just because they dont want die fighting.
#70
Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:37 PM
As it is the sole reason for retreating and powering down is long gone when repair costs was removed from the game so there is no reason why you shouldn't be out there trying to pad the Kill part of you kill/death ratio. If you're gonna die, just do what I do and try to at least take one of the ******** with you.
#71
Posted 10 September 2013 - 04:35 AM
There is NO way I'm watching some ELOWannabe NinjaDeathSpider do acrobatics and evasion for the last 5-7 mins of a match.
If he's trying, great.
#72
Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:14 AM
Funkadelic Mayhem, on 04 August 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:
You have to earn my slavage!
*runs and hides*
If you want the last light to help you win a match, Dont leave most of the enemy with full armor VS your last light at the end of the match.
That I agree with! Kill/death may mean little in game terms but I always feel better if I lose and Didn't die..
That said I just sent up a screen cap of a fellow that evaded, shut down then Disconnected the other day.... Not cool sir not cool if it was deliberate (as I suspect it was) Funky and I might hide; might shut down; but we don't bail like that.
#73
Posted 11 September 2013 - 05:52 AM
Ensaine, on 10 September 2013 - 04:35 AM, said:
There is NO way I'm watching some ELOWannabe NinjaDeathSpider do acrobatics and evasion for the last 5-7 mins of a match.
If he's trying, great.
The WORST part is that wether they live or die it will not change a damn thing on their ELO so that is why I call them KDRetards
#74
Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:34 AM
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#75
Posted 12 September 2013 - 01:23 PM
#76
Posted 12 September 2013 - 01:56 PM
Magnakanus, on 05 September 2013 - 07:00 AM, said:
Yeah, that would be an elegant solution, if the hider in question was engaged and fighting until he was the last, then ran off and hid. But too many times the hider breaks off as soon as their team is down by three or four mechs and runs off, while what's left of their company is run down and destroyed.
Maybe that player could have made a difference. Maybe not. There's no 'elegance' in not finding out. Only cowardice and a spoil-sport performance that utterly flies in the face of how the game is meant to be be played.
Edited by Tycho von Gagern, 12 September 2013 - 05:09 PM.
#77
Posted 12 September 2013 - 05:10 PM

1 - When you installed and launched MWO for the first time, you agreed to be bound by the game rules determined by PGI.
2 - This also includes posting etiquette, i.e. not to support or encourage irregular behavior and rule-breaking.
3 - Revealing the position of any 'Mech on your team is against the rules; furthermore, it is an abuse of the spectator system.
4 - Supporting and encouraging this behavior is also against the rules.
5 - When you launch into a match, you agree to be bound to it until a) the timer runs out, B) you disconnect or c) a team wins.
6 - It is true that some players run and hide early in a match to pad statistics and annoy others.
7 - However, it is unreasonable to expect other players to drop dead at your behest, to your benefit.
8 - If you're extremely curious about the outcome of the match, that is solely your concern: spectate or survive until the end.
9 - Everyone has access to at least 4 'Mech bays and 4 Trial 'Mechs, one of which is a Champion and usually playable.
10 - If you want to keep playing very badly, you can just leave the match and use any other of the 'Mechs at your disposal.
#78
Posted 12 September 2013 - 05:19 PM
I was in my HBK-4P on Forest Colony (assault) and was the last guy alive vs. 3 baddies after a pretty intense fight near our base. My CT was almost gone, but I somehow still had my hunch. I ran from the fight towards our base, showing the enemy my back since I had enough armour to absorb some hits. I dropped into the creek when out of sight and into the flood tunnel, powering down.
During the fight, I knew that at least 2 of the three (Atlas, Catapult) were on orange rear internals, with a zombied HBK-4SP with just a head SLAS taking up the rear. My heart was pounding as I heard them walk across the bridge over my head, and fantasies of me powering up and killing them from behind were materializing, when my teammate called out my position. I powered up, ran towards the waterfall with the HBK in tow, and got scrapped after taking him down.
I swore at my teammate, who proceeded to call me a KDR loser, advised me to get a life, etc. I don't really get mad while playing, but the game's crappy chat interface couldn't keep up with my fingers.
Please tell me that he/she was justified in calling out my position.
#79
Posted 12 September 2013 - 09:34 PM
A player - let's call him Sky Chicken (not his real name) - was the only enemy Mech left against 8 on my team. He was in a relatively undamaged Spider.
So he suicided...! That's right. Instead of trying to kill one of us and earn some cash for himself and his team, he deliberately killed himself!
When I asked Sky Chicken why, he said ''I was vastly out-numbed.'' When I *cough* expressed annoyance *cough* and pointed out that he could have gotten a final kill (I've often gotten three kills in that kind of situation) he said ''I am denying you my salvage''.
What The Fr4ck is that about..?! He doesn't personally lose anything when the enemy wins CBills. There's not some great galactic post-death accounting book that penalises anyone for how many CBills they provide the enemy in a PUG game!
It was just poor sportsmanship; absolutely selfish and pathetic.
Edited by Appogee, 12 September 2013 - 09:35 PM.
#80
Posted 12 September 2013 - 10:48 PM
KDR is meaningless (and stats may still be reset with the addition of achievements, anyway), and you're only costing yourself c-bills by not doing as much damage as you possibly could (with the chance to get an extra kill or two, too). It's not like there are any R&R costs anymore, either, so dying isn't really a big deal.
I guessing the behavior is most exhibited in a few specific types of people, namely KDRtards who just got done playing Call of Duty, and trolls who just want to **** people because it makes them feel better about their sad, sad little lives.
Edited by DEMAX51, 12 September 2013 - 10:57 PM.
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