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#21 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:22 PM

View PostRakeesh, on 07 August 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

I have not Elited or Mastered any of my mechs, but I have invested in each of the basic abilities. As for my Mechs, I use a Jenner JR7-D or a Centurian CN9-D. My Jenner has 3 medium pulse lasers, an AMS, 14 Double Heat Sinks, a standard engine 205, and Maxed-Out Ferro-Fibrous armor. My Centurian has an AMS, 2 Medium Pulse Lasers, a Gauss Rifle, 10 Heat Sinks, a Standard Engine 160, and Maxed-Out Ferro-Fibrous Armor.

your mech configs are horrible.
basic ES > FF

#22 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:30 PM

View PostSug, on 07 August 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:


holy

Over the past couple months I've gotten a new mouse, and a new video card, it's really amazing how much easier it is to pilot and aim with a gaming mouse and 60fps.

I played mwo for 11 months at 25fps. Can't imagine how hard it is to play at 12....




If he has a really, really old router it might be affecting his connection speed. But yeah 47 isn't bad at all.

I averaged 9 FpS Until November an I received Murphy's Tower. I had no Idea what the game was like really till I saw it from the tower.

Also, everyone. Way to be helpful and kind. I haven't seen enough of this, but I do indeed like this side of the Community. :)

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 07 August 2013 - 08:31 PM.


#23 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostRakeesh, on 07 August 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

I have not Elited or Mastered any of my mechs, but I have invested in each of the basic abilities. As for my Mechs, I use a Jenner JR7-D or a Centurian CN9-D. My Jenner has 3 medium pulse lasers, an AMS, 14 Double Heat Sinks, a standard engine 205, and Maxed-Out Ferro-Fibrous armor. My Centurian has an AMS, 2 Medium Pulse Lasers, a Gauss Rifle, 10 Heat Sinks, a Standard Engine 160, and Maxed-Out Ferro-Fibrous Armor.

Definitely swap the FFA out for Endo as soon as you can afford it. You get more tonnage to work with. On the Centurion i you swap for Standard Mediums an Endo you Might be able to add an SRM of some more punch. I also will swear by the AC10 for the Centurion. most will say it is to weak, but My CO DocBach Went to the top ten in Mediums Using AC10, SRM6, 2 Mediums.

On the Jenner, I run 6 Mediums over the Pulses. More range an bigger Punch. But also depending on your Elo, 6 Small lasers allows for more sustainable fire.

Mostly, you need to find what works for you best. There is a lot great advice out there but it comes down to what works best for you will always be the most fun.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:50 PM

View PostRakeesh, on 07 August 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

I have not Elited or Mastered any of my mechs, but I have invested in each of the basic abilities. As for my Mechs, I use a Jenner JR7-D or a Centurian CN9-D. My Jenner has 3 medium pulse lasers, an AMS, 14 Double Heat Sinks, a standard engine 205, and Maxed-Out Ferro-Fibrous armor. My Centurian has an AMS, 2 Medium Pulse Lasers, a Gauss Rifle, 10 Heat Sinks, a Standard Engine 160, and Maxed-Out Ferro-Fibrous Armor.


Too slow in both mechs, too hot with MPLs in your Jenner and seems under-armored for that equipment. Right now with how a mech's agility is tied to engine rating, you need to upgrade.

Eventually you will want an XL 300 for your Jenner, they are expensive, but very safe in Jenners, just keep mobile, you will need that speed as a light and Jenners are all Center Torso anyway.

Here is one JR7-D build you could strive for as you earn C-Bills to buy the gear you need, you generally don't need AMS is a light that needs to use tons in other areas.


As for your Centurion, it could use a few tweaks. Using your Standard 205 can work in a build, basically minor tweaks and Endo from what you seem to have already.

So, I recommend moving the engine from the Jenner to the Cent, and using the Cent to earn to a better engine for your Jenner, that should help you the most I hope.

Edit: Updating Link

Edited by Praetor Shepard, 07 August 2013 - 08:57 PM.


#25 Ertur

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 08:52 PM

I think the best way to improve your KDR would be to kill more and die less.

(Mine is a .22, so the joke's on me.)

#26 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:07 PM

Also if you have that low FPS try to use google to find how to use config files.It can give you +10-20 fps depends on your PC.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:14 PM

View PostErtur, on 07 August 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

I think the best way to improve your KDR would be to kill more and die less.

(Mine is a .22, so the joke's on me.)


Well, what are you using? Maybe some tweaks can help you out?

#28 GRiPSViGiL

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:15 PM

I played the Commando my first 25 matches and didn't get one kill, lol. So don't even worry about that a bad KD. Now that I have my Jenner specced to my playstyle and my KD is above 2.

Research your chassis and what builds seem to work good and hopefully Koniving van work out your playstyle kinks.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:33 PM

View PostRakeesh, on 07 August 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:


I am currently using a Windows 7 PC with 8GB of ram and an Intel Core 2 Duo, running at 3.1 Ghtz. My video card is an ATI Radeon HD 5500.


I wonder if trying what is suggested here could help. I tried it on my Dual Core, but the last time I tried MWO on it was December. I had built a new PC during that Holiday period.

And there is this forum that could help with hardware: http://mwomercs.com/...re-accessories/

#30 Ertur

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:38 PM

View PostPraetor Shepard, on 07 August 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:


Well, what are you using? Maybe some tweaks can help you out?

I'm just an *****.

Actually, my biggest problem is with keeping my MLasers on the target. For 7,000 hits I did about 14,000 damage.
That's a skill issue more than anything and is getting better. It had been about 1.5 damage per hit for a while.

Also, I tend to keep trying to fight when I should run, and that's dumb for a light mech to do. So, yeah, not joking with that '*****' comment after all, huh.

My assist to death ratio is much, much better, though. So there's that.


+++++
Wait, I can't call myself an *****, even if I am one? What about daft, goofy, sub-intelligent, dumber-than-a-box-of-rocks, not-the-sharpest-tack-in-the-box, or not-the-brightest-bulb-in-the-marquee? Can I say any of that? Hey, how about One-Delta-Ten-Tango?

Edited by Ertur, 07 August 2013 - 09:42 PM.


#31 Modo44

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:46 PM

Lower your mouse sensitivity (both in-game, and in Windows), and disable Smooth and Acceleration in the game options (both sliders all the way to the left). This is the first thing to do for any FPS game. For MWO specifically, unlock the arms if you have not done it yet (uncheck Arm Lock in the game options).

Lower your graphics settings -- even drop the game resolution -- to get close to, prefarably above, 30 frames per second. More fluid motion will help you aim.

If that is still not enough, just make an LRM boat. :)

Edited by Modo44, 07 August 2013 - 10:17 PM.


#32 Johnny Reb

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:00 PM

View PostRakeesh, on 07 August 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:


Hello, Mycrus. I do not use a joystick. I use a Microsoft Trackball Optical 1.0. I am not really sure how to find its DPI.
My ping is listed as 47, and my FPS seems to average at about 12. I have a feeling that this might be part of the problem.

I used a trackball back in my TFC classic days, 1998-2002. Was competitive, however, modern mice far surpass it now.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:04 PM

Well said despite the bad translation to the forum!

However, including yourself as a good player is a little passe.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 07 August 2013 - 10:05 PM.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:23 PM

Tweaking mouse sensitivity helps a whole lot.


View PostErtur, on 07 August 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

I'm just an *****.

Actually, my biggest problem is with keeping my MLasers on the target. For 7,000 hits I did about 14,000 damage.
That's a skill issue more than anything and is getting better. It had been about 1.5 damage per hit for a while.

Also, I tend to keep trying to fight when I should run, and that's dumb for a light mech to do. So, yeah, not joking with that '*****' comment after all, huh.

My assist to death ratio is much, much better, though. So there's that.


A lot can happen in a match so don't worry about damage per hit. There are more important details to concern ourselves with during a match.

You can fiddle around with your mouse settings in Training Grounds. And you can at least try to simulate how to hold lasers on target there, which can help you keep on target in a match. Also, check out this thread for a more detailed explanation: http://mwomercs.com/...-melt-properly/


As for disengaging an enemy, sometimes you can't if you both have about the same speed, are slower or get caught in an open area.

And you can always stay with a group of mechs (even as a PUG) to try to Focus Fire or simply act as distractions for each other, instead of trying to fight alone, especially now with 12 v 12. I've been in plenty of matches where I've gotten someone's attention so that they keep turning to hit me as they expose their back to my teammates they either often go down pretty quick or would turn to face them, then I get my shots in and sometimes could get a kill that way.

Also, if you do get into a 1 on 1 situation that you can't get out of, it is at least an opportunity to practice dealing damage, even if you end up losing that one engagement. In such a case you can try to practice turning, using JJs if you got them, counter turning, using terrain and so on.

And check out these forums, there's a lot of helpful info about, that you can use to improve in this game.

Here's one for Jenners: http://mwomercs.com/...-to-the-jenner/

Edit: typo

Edited by Praetor Shepard, 07 August 2013 - 10:25 PM.


#35 Koniving

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:34 PM

View PostRakeesh, on 07 August 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

I am currently using a Windows 7 PC with 8GB of ram and an Intel Core 2 Duo, running at 3.1 Ghtz. My video card is an ATI Radeon HD 5500.


Of these items the thing hurting you the most is the Intel Core 2 Duo processor.

I've seen people run the game just as well as myself with ATI Radeon HD 4800s, seen them run fine with 8 gigs of ram.

But never, ever, have I seen anyone manage better than 20 frames on an Intel Core 2 Duo without some massive graphical reductions that verge almost on the level of cheating unless it involved a lot more ram and a far better card. But no matter how you go about it, MWO is an extremely processor intensive game. I know you can't do it any time soon, but the thing to invest in is a new processor. The rest you can manage fine without.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 05:33 AM

I differ a bit: I had terribad problems back in the day until I lost my patience and installed 24Gb of Ram. At one stage even 12Gb was not enough to run the game until I disabled everything I could with Gamebooster and I even shut down windows explorer. Which made me realise just how much the game can take for itself if you let it. I am saying that just as a heads up, and may be personal to me, but try shooting for 16Gb Ram on top of a new processor.

Other than that playing MWO halfway well involves dropping a solid amount on your machine. Let's hope they start optimising the code one of these days so that ordinary mortals can run it.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 05:37 AM

Which reminds me: Try Gamebooster or similar to free up CPU power for your game as well.

All in all though the tale about the fisherman with the best equipment and the least catches applies to me: 0.15 KDR and that is actually up from 0.12. So don't fret about it. I swear the guys I play against know by now I am an easy kill and focus fire me just for that ...

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 07:36 AM

View PostRakeesh, on 07 August 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:

I am currently using a Windows 7 PC with 8GB of ram and an Intel Core 2 Duo, running at 3.1 Ghtz. My video card is an ATI Radeon HD 5500.


Your best bet is to upgrade to quad core cpu if you can.

#39 Koniving

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:00 AM

Indeed. Myself I'm running an AMD Phenom II quad core processor at 3.6ghz, 16 gigs ram, two video cards but MWO doesn't use both cards and barely uses 30% of my AMD/ATI Radeon 6870. I remember during the stress tests before Open Beta. Fun times. Everyone was rubber banding so hard that barely anyone could move. Anyone but me.

Went on to make a few kills and capture a base, while taking 4 steps and rubber banding back 3 over and over. B)

Anyway Rakeesh when you're on let me know.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:49 PM

Hello, again, everyone. Thank you for your advice. I will definitely be trying out your suggestions for optimizing game performance. I will try tweaking the game settings, over the next few days, and will let you know if I manage to improve my framerate.

Edited by Rakeesh, 08 August 2013 - 08:50 PM.






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