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[Ripper X]

Where is the link to the variants?
I mean is there a MWO loadout of these variants and not on the sarna wiki?

Thanks

Edited by Ripper X, 16 August 2013 - 05:59 PM.

[Khobai]

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I'm not founder, but still think that founder package owners should get more respect from PGI...

I think $60 founders made out pretty well.
Its the $120 founders that got screwed bigtime though.

Personally I think the four founders mechs should just get the same 30% cbill bonus and 10% loyalty bonus as the phoenix mechs. Thats not a big deal and it would make founders less upset about the phoenix mechs being better than founders mechs.

[Vasces Diablo]

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!

The jump jet variant of the Thunderbolt!!!!!

Edit: also, that pattern is gonna look awesome in purple and gold.

Edited by Vasces Diablo, 16 August 2013 - 06:03 PM.

[Carrioncrows]

Lol...it's like the PC gamer colors but renamed phoenix.!

I don't care it's free.

=)

[Monsoon]

Very nice! *golf-clap*

There is very cool of PGI to do as an added bonus.

[Chronojam]

Hey guys, I'm having trouble finding the numbers for our progress or the threshold for the stretch goals. Can anybody else find the sales figures or monetary limits for these? I don't see the markers anywhere, we're just 45% of the way through Phase 2.

In fact, we know we're 45% of the way through because the image for that is hardcoded to https://static.mwome...oyalty/loyalty_2_45_on.jpg

I don't see images for any other percent completion values or automated callbacks. This seems awfully arbitrary.

Are we truly 45% of the way through Phase 2?
How many more packages do we need to purchase to finish it?
Is the lowest-level pack equivalent to the highest-level pack as far as moving this along?

I already have the PC Gamer skin colors so I don't really care too much about the paints.

[Airborne Thunder]

The Project Phoenix colors are finally revealed:

[Koniving]

GingerBang, on 16 August 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Link to the list? Navigating this website takes way to long with the 5 minute load times between pages.

Listed below you are those.. Essentially they're similar to the PC Gamer, the Buccaneer, and the uh... the paint job that elludes me with the skeletons? Yeah. Each of them when compared to one another is brighter or darker than the others. So if you missed out on the PC Gamer colors or think the premium paints to be too expensive, this is great news.

For me I'm getting another tint of the PC Gamer colors I already had, but it's welcome all the same.

Airborne Thunder, on 16 August 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

The Project Phoenix colors are finally revealed:

I love it.

We had a similar epiphany when we realized what Zhi-Zhu's Jade Dragon colors really are:

[Belorion]

Genewen, on 16 August 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

Scared by all the refunds, aren't we? Even if that pack contained all three unlocks, I won't make mine undone.

I seriously doubt it.

[T0RC4ED]

So wait... we get the mechs, the mech bays, the faction emblems, bonus premium time (if bought early enough)... ,and now some paint... SWEET! 80 bucks well spent. I must say... that Thunderbolt looks EPIC!

Edited by T0RC4ED, 16 August 2013 - 06:33 PM.

[Jetfire]

Excellent, Very Classy move PGI!

Show this kind of foresight on our way to launch an you may yet rise like a phoenix this fall. *fingers crossed*

[Will9761]

I'm so glad I bought Project Phoenix.

[Jetfire]

Khobai, on 16 August 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

I think $60 founders made out pretty well.
Its the $120 founders that got screwed bigtime though.

Personally I think the four founders mechs should just get the same 30% cbill bonus and 10% loyalty bonus as the phoenix mechs. Thats not a big deal and it would make founders less upset about the phoenix mechs being better than founders mechs.

As a$120 founder, I do not feel screwed. I could clearly see $60 was the value point. I essentially spent the other $60 as a message of goodwill to the team willing to bring Mechwarrior back from the grave. It has been a rough road, but I have had a lot of fun blowing up mechs and there is a decent chance they pull this thing off by spring. Either way, it's been interesting.

[Koniving]

Jetfire, on 16 August 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

As a$120 founder, I do not feel screwed. I could clearly see $60 was the value point. I essentially spent the other $60 as a message of goodwill to the team willing to bring Mechwarrior back from the grave. It has been a rough road, but I have had a lot of fun blowing up mechs and there is a decent chance they pull this thing off by spring. Either way, it's been interesting.

I agree.

There are some decisions I dislike,

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and I'll simply be much happier when the rising capacity is exchanged for a solid capacity across all mechs or maybe set thresholds depending on mech or chassis, where the heatsinks simply cool. Not extend how much you can shoot but simply cool you. The other is the AC/2 ghost heat; my founder's 4G was just beginning to become awesome again in a build with 3 AC/2s, 3 SLs, 3 tons of ammo, and an XL 250 engine. Then ghost heat on the AC/2 hit. Then there's the lack of repair and rearm, but meh.

However I don't feel cheated in any way. I got what I put my money in for. I was already closed beta testing. Didn't have to pay a dime. In the long run I reused that 80 dollars in about 7 times over as it kept getting refunded to me with every reset.

I chose to get the founder's package because the closed beta was incredible (honestly still is better than now, but with standard engines and standard heatsinks only kept the trial mechs extremely viable and with no unlocks everyone had an equal chance. The repair and rearm kept the number of assaults down, and "medium mechs" truly were the "workhorse" of the environment.)

PGI if you're listening I know you're soon to remove trial mechs altogether. Do me a favor: set aside a "Stock only" mode where it lets us pick from all the stock mechs to "try them out," against queues of other players who also choose to play it. I love the feeling of stock mechs because the alpha strike non-sense is almost impossible to do (since their capacity is 40 usually, where most MWO mechs have capacities of 60 to 80).

I'll be seeing you guys in the field with my Phoenix mechs.

[Flying Blind]

Jetfire, on 16 August 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

As a$120 founder, I do not feel screwed. I could clearly see $60 was the value point. I essentially spent the other $60 as a message of goodwill to the team willing to bring Mechwarrior back from the grave. It has been a rough road, but I have had a lot of fun blowing up mechs and there is a decent chance they pull this thing off by spring. Either way, it's been interesting.

^this^

Also happy with pro/pho purchase

[Alex Warden]

the colours are very close to the PC Gamer colours, except for the grey. nice for those who "missed" the closed (way before time) PCGamer action... but for me? well,not so much... oh, i almost forgot - i don´t purchase anyway

[Hugh Fairgrove]

I cant lie. This makes me happy PGI. Lets get that Phase 3 guys!

Edited by Hugh Fairgrove, 17 August 2013 - 07:52 AM.

[IrrelevantFish]

I suspect that those complaining that the Phoenix colors are the same as the PC Gamer colors are the kind of people that think eggshell and ivory are both just white. (I thought the same thing until I said it out loud in front of my graphic-designer sister. I still have the scars. ) You may not see/care about the difference, but that doesn't mean there isn't one, nor does it mean that PGI is being lazy/screwing us over. It just means that you don't see/care about the difference, and whose fault is that?

So please, please, please quit your belly-aching.


EDIT: Releasing bits and pieces early is a great idea! Keep it coming, PGI!

Edited by IrrelevantFish, 16 August 2013 - 07:18 PM.

[Risko Vinsheen]

I don't see how anyone could think the "Phoenix Red" is "PC Gamer Red". Phoenix Red is more orange than anything. That grey is also noticeably different to me. I can see how there's some confusion but it is different. The black is about the only color that could really be seen as "same" since most blacks look the same anyways... it's black...

I put my order in for Overlord in the beginning. C'mon folks, daddy needs a new flame pattern!

[Farpenoodle]

IrrelevantFish, on 16 August 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

I suspect that those complaining that the Phoenix colors are the same as the PC Gamer colors are the kind of people that think eggshell and ivory are both just white. (I thought the same thing until I said it out loud in front of my graphic-designer sister. I still have the scars. ) You may not see/care about the difference, but that doesn't mean there isn't one, nor does it mean that PGI is being lazy/screwing us over. It just means that you don't see/care about the difference, and whose fault is that?

So please, please, please quit your belly-aching.


EDIT: Releasing bits and pieces early is a great idea! Keep it coming, PGI!

Yeah. Pretty much this. I'm a graphic designer. I'm looking at this and that people think they are the same color is making my brain hurt.

Edited by Farpenoodle, 16 August 2013 - 07:27 PM.