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[Silent]

Redoxin, on 20 August 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

Reading this 3rd person view is such a huge disadvantage. It will never be used by the majority of players. As far as I am concerned all the agitation about this feature was for nothing.

It will be used by the majority of new players because it's on by default according to the patch notes. This also means that new players are most likely going to die even more horribly, and not understand why, because they probably won't realize that third person gives a floating drone over your head that tells everyone your location.

Edited by Silent, 20 August 2013 - 09:19 AM.

[Deathlike]

Viper69, on 20 August 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

Then what in the hell reason is it in for? It should be on the training grounds and ONLY on the training grounds because PGIs reason for putting it in was people were too confused to align their legs and torso.

That was PGI's position at the time.

[Mister Blastman]

Redoxin, on 20 August 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

Reading this 3rd person view is such a huge disadvantage. It will never be used by the majority of players. As far as I am concerned all the agitation about this feature was for nothing.

No, it isn't. So what if the enemy can see the blinking probe of you behind a hill. Now snipers can hit F4, look over hill, know precisely who and what is where and when and pick the absolute perfect time to crest/jump/slide while pressing F4 again to go back to cockpit/zoom.

Think it won't happen?

Think again.

[Ludwig von Luetzow]

Redoxin, on 20 August 2013 - 09:16 AM, said:

Reading this 3rd person view is such a huge disadvantage. It will never be used by the majority of players. As far as I am concerned all the agitation about this feature was for nothing.

As with many things. I really like the patchnotes so far. Maybe Ultra ACs now will replace some of those abominable 2 PPC/1 Gauss mechs. I only hope the Heavies won't be too disadvantaged in comparison with Mediums now.

This camera thing in 3rd person view kind of reminds me of Solaris VII...

[Redoxin]

Viper69, on 20 August 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

Then what in the hell reason is it in for? It should be on the training grounds and ONLY on the training grounds because PGIs reason for putting it in was people were too confused to align their legs and torso.

Why should I care about the new players? I am not dropping against them because of my higher Elo. If I should drop against 3PV players I would be happy though, because it means I will have easy opponents.

[Destructicus]

Redoxin, on 20 August 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

Ok can anybody explain to me in a reasonable way why this introduction of 3rd person view is a problem?

short and sweet
3ppov players will have an overwhelming fov advantage over the rest of us in our cockpits

[UPnADAM]

I think its funny people complain about not having separate ques...just play a few games and notice that just because some noobs are in 3pv doesn't make them leaderboard kings....sheesh

[DemonRaziel]

InnerSphereNews, on 20 August 2013 - 07:31 AM, said:

Streak SRM-2 damage has been increased from 1.5 to 2.5

Isn't that more than standard SRMs do? I understand that the hit locations are somewhat random, but I'm nor really sure the "aimbot" really needs that much of a buff?

InnerSphereNews, on 20 August 2013 - 07:31 AM, said:

Reduced the amount of Conquest Resource reward for the losing team.

Wait, what? I'm sorry, did you say you reduced some earnings even more?

[Vasces Diablo]

Deathlike, on 20 August 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

If there isn't a 3PV+1PV queue as promised... there are only 3 possibilities:

1) In conjunction with MM improvements to add tonnage limits, PGI is trying to combine all these changes before the Sept launch (they have 3 weeks to get this done for the next patch).

2) Did not have the time to get it done, despite wasting 2 Thursdays to not have a Public Test server configured for this very purpose...

3) PGI has changed their position at the time. There may or may not be enough people to warrant a player split in queues.

This is not a good sign either way. A PGI response is actually necessary before something goes really wrong.

Kind of related to your option 1: I'm guessing split queues is a "with UI 2.0" kind of thing. They would have to make changes to te current launch screen to facilitate it, and why waste the development time when that's going away.

[Middcore]

I don't know why people are so obsessed with the idea of only fighting against other people in 1PV. People in 1PV will have a huge ADVANTAGE against those in 3PV. It is the rookies in 3PV who don't know better who will be the real victims of not having separate queues.

[M0rpHeu5]

So no change on the CB reward system not even a statement, i am very dissapointed in you. From now i'll stop sending support tickes about bugs i find.

[Revorn]

And that Boni to Torsotwists should now make a Medium more usefull? Lol


And make 3PV default and dont bring in seperate Ques? Holy......

Edited by Revorn, 20 August 2013 - 09:25 AM.

[Middcore]

Destructicus, on 20 August 2013 - 09:20 AM, said:

short and sweet
3ppov players will have an overwhelming fov advantage over the rest of us in our cockpits

Did you try 3PV in the test at all?

3PV is a big DISADVANTAGE in every way. There is no substantive improvement in field of view, it is a pain in the *** to aim, and now they've said your arms will be locked all the time as well.

People playing in 3PV are handicapping themselves and if you see someone with that little floating camera behind them you should focus on them as an easy target.

[New Day]

REALLY? REALLY? You nerfed MGs? I...

[craevenwulfe]

Deathlike, on 20 August 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

3) PGI has changed their position at the time. There may or may not be enough people to warrant a player split in queues.

This is not a good sign either way. A PGI response is actually necessary before something goes really wrong.

ORRRR PGI is making it easy for everyone to try out third person view so that when they whine like **** on the forums they actually do it from a position of having a ******* clue.

This way [Niko] can keep his dirty secret of trialling 3rd person view and LIKING it, without having to tell his clan mates his dirty secret.

Don't ask, don't tell.

Edited by Niko Snow, 20 August 2013 - 12:51 PM.
Name & Shame

[Silent]

Vasces Diablo, on 20 August 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

Kind of related to your option 1: I'm guessing split queues is a "with UI 2.0" kind of thing. They would have to make changes to te current launch screen to facilitate it, and why waste the development time when that's going away.

The split queue screen was visible in the UI during the testing of third person. So no, that's not the case.

[Deathlike]

M0rpHeu5, on 20 August 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

So no change on the CB reward system not even a statement, i am very dissapointed in you. From now i'll stop sending support tickes about bugs i find.

There is a change... you get less on Conquest when you lose. So... there's literally NO reason to play Conquest because standing around at a cap point is "tons of fun" when you stand there for at least 60-90+ seconds to convert a cap point.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Im sure...infact 100% positive i remember a developer statement of.

1st Person and 3rd person players don't have to play one another if they don't want too.

Just Sayin

[3rdworld]

That is a huge UAC buff.

Average double shot dps from ~4.26(less than single) to 5.41 (more than single).

good thing I leveled up the HGN-733C

Edited by 3rdworld, 20 August 2013 - 09:50 AM.

[New Day]

Reduced the amount of Conquest Resource reward for the losing team.

Ahahahahaha. Sigh...