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[Crazycajun]

i find it even more hilarious that all the forum trolls don't like a dose of their own medicine for as much trolling / mud slinging they do towards the devs ..

its not like they HAVE to deal with you..but they do.

[stjobe]

NRP, on 20 August 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

What exactly is all the outrage about anyway? That Russ thinks 3PV might actually be a slight disadvantage (e.g. Mech easier to spot)? Some of you guys seem overly sensitive and a bit insecure.

The outrage is because there's not many people that want 3PV. It's been a hot-button topic since the time when PGI said they would never, ever implement a 3PV.

It was a hot-button issue when they said they were thinking of implementing it for "special game modes".

It was a hot-button issue when they said they were going to implement it in regular play, but don't worry, it'll be separate queues so you don't have to use it or play against it.

It was a hot-button issue when they suddenly decided queues were to hard to implement and said F it, let's just force everyone to play with or against it.

And it's now a hot-button issue because the president of the company is mocking the whole situation, saying how it's not a big deal, the drones give the 1PV player the advantage.

Does that clear things up?

Tsig, on 20 August 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

So, because they've delayed the separate queues, suddenly it's fraud now?

Not delayed, there'll be no separate queues, it's scrapped:

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After designing, developing, and testing the MWO’s 3PV, we quickly realised that 3PV offered no significant advantage over 1PV. In fact we found each mode had pros and cons that played well with each other. This revelation changed our initial 3PV plans and we postponed Hardcore mode (separate queues for 1PV and 3PV), in favor of rethinking the idea and offering up a different solution that also addressed a few more community wish list items.

- http://mwomercs.com/...re-those-queues

Edit: "Postponed" in PGI parlance means "forget about it, it ain't happening".

Edited by stjobe, 20 August 2013 - 02:41 PM.

[Uriah Fable]

I think Russ is the one living on an island with that comment...."best state of the game'?...what game is HE playing?

[Felbombling]

PGI are dangerously close to being comparable to Nigerian telemarketing scammers, but I think Russ was downplaying the advantage that 3rd person view gives by stating that they are also easy to spot while in 3rd person, so staying in 1st person isn't that much of a big deal if you choose to do so. Sort of reminds me of the glowing red eyes the Atlas used to have, and how you could pick them out at distance. Meh... non-issue.

[Lefteye Falconeer]

It is already in the game files. Go choose the game mode, you will see "Assault", "Conquest" and "Any", and then the same variants but in HARDCORE mode.

Worry not. We won't have to play against 3PV people if we don't want to. Maybe longer queue times, but the game the way it is supposed to be.

[Slopey]

Crazycajun, on 20 August 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

it doesn't offer any more advantages then what seismic offers or anything else..

Nonsense.

[Qrbaza]

Lefteye, on 20 August 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

"Hardcore" mode, where no 3PV is allowed, is coming. So I guess everything will work out eventually.

Yes it will work out when half of playerbase will eventualy stop playing

[krash27]

So basically he is saying that the people in 1PV have the advantage since we see this drone. So basically when these 3PV users are periscoping and a 1PV may catch a quick glimpse of this drone which gives a general idea where he is since he was only in 3PV for a second, not long enough to nail his position 100%. The 1PV user gets a general idea where they are maybe, while the 3PV periscoper knows where you are, your torso to leg orientation and your approximate speed. This is what he calls unfair to the 3PV user? Not to mention I thought we were told that we would never have to fight against 3PV users if we didn't want to due to their being 2 separate drop ques. What happened to that. Forced everyone together already?

[sokitumi]

More like just a dorky attempt at humor in an effort to mitigate the perception of the impact of 3pv on gameplay. Is it a taunt? Not really. But is it daft to think that pros will sit in 3pv rather than just a quick toggle to see over that next hill? Totally

Edited by sokitumi, 20 August 2013 - 02:41 PM.

[krash27]

Crazycajun, on 20 August 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

There is nothing wrong with playing with folks that wana play in 3rd person view...

it doesn't offer any more advantages then what seismic offers or anything else..

it just blown up because all the "elite" and forum warriors don't like other folks having fun with the game except them..

i for one applaud pgi for sticking to their guns and keeping the 2 together in the same que.. we do NOT need a playerbase split..and before u say we do..you people have not seen what that kinda split does to a game.. i have.. you dont want it here.

So the pic posted above has no advantages where the mech can obviously see over the building and around both sides of it, no advantage there.... The part where Russ is badgering the community...well that is just really unprofessional.

[Victor Morson]

"Hi there!

We spent 6 months working on a feature nobody wanted. But it's OK! We nerfed this feature we've been working on for that long to the point it's entirely unusable for anyone.

See? No problem!"

[Lord Ikka]

I'm not upset because I have to play with 3PV pilots- I've tried it and don't like it myself and don't see any advantage. I am upset about the continual changes that have been implemented that directly contradict what was told to the players before.

[Deathlike]

Congrats PGI. Well trolled.

I for one salute your commitment to a 3PV-enabled CW on PGI Island.

[PanzerMagier]

Victor Morson, on 20 August 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

"Hi there!

We spent 6 months working on a feature nobody wanted. But it's OK! We nerfed this feature we've been working on for that long to the point it's entirely unusable for anyone.

See? No problem!"

And this is why I have why I don't care about MWO anymore.

Edited by PanzerMagier, 20 August 2013 - 02:48 PM.

[Diskordia86]

Indeed. It clearly gives you an unrealistic P.O.V.

Slopey, on 20 August 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Nonsense.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

I haven't had a chance to play with 3pv yet.

In that screen shot, can you target enemies from behind that building, say for LRM fire?
Also based on that screen shot the drone must be several meters above and behind your mech, can they be shot at? and if so can they be destoryed or does it do damage to your... (head, CT, Rear CT)?

[Deathlike]

The funny thing about this... PGI has done every terrible trick in the book, and then some.

Please White Knights, show us how their previous statements are not contradictory to what was said much before that...

I would like to know if there's any truth left that the New Testament - Book of PGI that hasn't been cited.

[krash27]

Lord Ikka, on 20 August 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

I'm not upset because I have to play with 3PV pilots- I've tried it and don't like it myself and don't see any advantage. I am upset about the continual changes that have been implemented that directly contradict what was told to the players before.

Learn to periscope, you will see a huge advantage.

[Diskordia86]

The drone can not be targeted.

[Sgt Peanuts]

Two days after I get back into MWO, this happens.

F*ck it, I'm going back to MWLL.

And if that's died since I left, I'm just gonna curl up in the corner and cry about how my childhood died.