81 replies to this topic

[AC]

I think MWLL is being resurected because of the PGI crapstorm of lies and undelivered promises. They are going looking to partner with a planetary league so that in one fell swoop there will be another MW game that includes a Metagame to go with it. I for one am going to support that project.

[Joseph Mallan]

Crazycajun, on 20 August 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

There is nothing wrong with playing with folks that wana play in 3rd person view...

it doesn't offer any more advantages then what seismic offers or anything else..

it just blown up because all the "elite" and forum warriors don't like other folks having fun with the game except them..

i for one applaud pgi for sticking to their guns and keeping the 2 together in the same que.. we do NOT need a playerbase split..and before u say we do..you people have not seen what that kinda split does to a game.. i have.. you dont want it here.

Question. Do I have to buy a Module to use 3rd person view?

I Don't have seismic cause I don't have the GXP, cause I haven't been spending money. hat may be why I have lost 0.04 of my K/D.

Lets see if 3PV can give me those wins back for free!

[jozkhan]

can't quite believe that President of the company publicly trolling his customers... I mean how does it look?

This is endgame territory

Edited by jozkhan, 20 August 2013 - 03:13 PM.

[AC]

Slopey, on 20 August 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Nonsense.

This right here is why you don't mix 1PV with 3PV.....

[Dan Nashe]

To be honest, other than disabling it in 12s, I don't think it's a big deal in randoms.
It's not that good unless you're really relaying that information to other people. Just because you can see a mech around a corner doesn't mean half your team isn't going to blunder into it anyways ;-).

GIVEN that, I am actually glad the random queue was not split in half. So good decision there based on changing information IMO.

Still, I see no reason for it to be active in 12s right now. If it is, that's a mistake, and it should be turned off at least long enough to get some more data on 3pv . . . and keeping it out of the actual competitive mode would solve a lot of the complaints . . .

[Hellcat420]

Tsig, on 20 August 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

So, because they've delayed the separate queues, suddenly it's fraud now?

they are not just delayed, they are not happening now, pgi wants a different solution because they like the mixed que, which they state in that paragraph.

[Clit Beastwood]

Lol just leg anyone you see running 3pv and leave them there

I keed I keed

[Riptor]

So just to recount...

This makes it how many times that PGI outright lied to us?

This takes on bioware levels of lying to your customers... only that bioware only did it once about the mass effect endings.

PGI seems to be allergic to say anything truthfully about their game and its features.

No this is not "this was our position at the time" this is outright lying to our faces without so much as a blush... and to add insult to injury it seems Russ is even proud about having lied to the playerbase.

Keep up the good work liars.

[Corvus Antaka]

I just hope 3PV is worth it financially for PGI...because the storm it has caused for 6 months is pretty epic...and culminating.

[Sybreed]

I'm watching Project Pheonix' page just in case the bar regresses instead of growing

[Deathlike]

Sybreed, on 20 August 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

I'm watching Project Pheonix' page just in case the bar regresses instead of growing

It won't. However, with all the silent 3PV supporters, they'll hit their goal in no time, amirite?

[Joachim Viltry]

Ok so we have...

-Russ's constant stream of unprofessional trolling sarcasm towards community concerns.

-Implementation of 'Ghost heat" rather than implementing a more sensible reduced (TT scale) heat scale (or any one of the myriad other options the community managed to come up with within hours of it's implementation)

-Failure to balance weapons despite many detailed suggestions from experienced MWLL devs

-Insistence on inclusion of 3PV despite community response

-3PV also does not do what it was intended to, anyway (this indicates either outright lies about it's intent, or gross incompetence in implementation) - this is further compounded by the 'appeal to emotion' forum post to try and get people off their backs...

-Lack of the oft promised separate game modes, with an insistence that we "will like it" (usually said when you tell some one to bend over and takes whats coming...)

-continued failure to address any community concerns with regards to the above

All of which leads me to believe that my money would be better spent by the nearest hobo living under an overpass.

[Waking One]

Joachim Viltry, on 20 August 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Ok so we have...

-Russ's constant stream of unprofessional trolling sarcasm towards community concerns.

-Implementation of 'Ghost heat" rather than implementing a more sensible reduced (TT scale) heat scale (or any one of the myriad other options the community managed to come up with within hours of it's implementation)

-Failure to balance weapons despite many detailed suggestions from experienced MWLL devs

-Insistence on inclusion of 3PV despite community response

-3PV also does not do what it was intended to, anyway (this indicates either outright lies about it's intent, or gross incompetence in implementation) - this is further compounded by the 'appeal to emotion' forum post to try and get people off their backs...

-Lack of the oft promised separate game modes, with an insistence that we "will like it" (usually said when you tell some one to bend over and takes whats coming...)

-continued failure to address any community concerns with regards to the above

All of which leads me to believe that my money would be better spent by the nearest hobo living under an overpass.

It's a game. In any case the money would be better spent there.

They just need to give it a cooldown or not let you change in game and it's no problem at all and mostly a penalty.

[Joachim Viltry]

Waking One, on 20 August 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

It's a game.

You seriously felt the need to say that? On the internet? Where games are serious effing business?


I could tell you something very important about trust when it comes to organizations that wish to receive my precious monies...

I could speak on the topic of history and human nature, and how it is very human to be upset by 'trivialities', and that others may not share your values or perceptions regarding what is trivial... or even share your ideas on appropriate response... (or on what constitutes a good investment of time and money)

Or I could pull a Russ, and remind you that you are on an island there, buddy. Because the guys I game with are all mad as hell right now, trivial little 'game' or no.

Edited by Joachim Viltry, 20 August 2013 - 04:48 PM.

[japes]

Pathetic form from someone in such a position. Disappoints me that a few months ago I was so keen to support this company, then patch after patch they prove they have no idea of their intentions, or if they do, flat out lie about them.

I'll decide over the next few days whether I refund my Overlord pack and possibly more through the appropriate channels.

[R Razor]

Crazycajun, on 20 August 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

There is nothing wrong with playing with folks that wana play in 3rd person view...

it doesn't offer any more advantages then what seismic offers or anything else..

it just blown up because all the "elite" and forum warriors don't like other folks having fun with the game except them..

i for one applaud pgi for sticking to their guns and keeping the 2 together in the same que.. we do NOT need a playerbase split..and before u say we do..you people have not seen what that kinda split does to a game.. i have.. you dont want it here.

Then charge the pansies that want 3pv a large amount of GXP and 6 million CB to be able to use it.

[Malakin]

I think this provides an interesting arguement against third person in games in general even if it is aimed at arma:

[Royalewithcheese]

This just in, PGI doesn't understand their own game and it leads to balance issues.

[Corvus Antaka]

Malakin, on 20 August 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

I think this provides an interesting arguement against third person in games in general even if it is aimed at arma:

which is why we should get seperate ques...

love the quote

"lets yu get knowledge with no consequence"

So true.

[Prezimonto]

Lefteye, on 20 August 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

"Hardcore" mode, where no 3PV is allowed, is coming. So I guess everything will work out eventually.

If you honestly think that's the truth at this point you're ignoring all the evidence. They will put in on eternal delay to avoid splitting the queues.