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Poll: 360 Torso Twisting - The Poll (552 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you think 360 torso twist on a "few" chassis would enhance gameplay like it did in MW4? Or do you think it will break MWO

  1. I think 360 on a "few" mechs would enhance gameplay, and I dont care about the TT rules. (84 votes [15.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.25%

  2. I care about the old TT rules, but I still think adding 360 would enhance this simulation game. (74 votes [13.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.43%

  3. I dont care about the TT rules but I still dont like the idea of 360 (123 votes [22.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.32%

  4. Im a hardcore TT fan and I say down with 360! Its not canon!!! (198 votes [35.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.93%

  5. (But) I dont care either way (6 votes [1.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.09%

  6. What is 360 torso twist? (2 votes [0.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.36%

  7. I'm going to wait until I actually play/test the game and see the results first hand (59 votes [10.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.71%

  8. Im confused... (5 votes [0.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.91%

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#261 SMDMadCow

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:24 AM

And this has gone on long enough. Requesting thread be locked.

We are a Battletech Community here, we are better than this so lets show it.

Edited by SMDMadCow, 15 June 2012 - 08:27 AM.


#262 Teralitha

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:26 AM

View Postblindprophet, on 15 June 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:


Actually, no its not. Unless you have a specific canon reference to it, which to my knowledge there is none.

And no MW4 is not canon.



Actually you don't make any actual arguments. You say it adds to diversity. Yet you also say theres a lack of diversity in MW is because mechs only move and shoot but make no argument as to how adding 360 torso twist would change that at all.

All you've done is parrot the same 'it adds diversity' line without actually making an argument as to how it adds diversity, or why its needed. Repeated attempts to get you to explain these things have been met with "i have" when you have not yet put forth a coherent well reasoned argument for it.


I generall ignore your senseless logic concerning me because you have yet to say anything that resembles the truth. You really are blind mr. prophet, the name suits you perfectly. You dont read, you dont listen to reason, and you keep insulting me with nothing to disprove why 360 isnt good for the game. You have absolutety nothing. Your whole entire existence here = fail.


Support 360, Support Diversity, Support IQ

Edited by Teralitha, 15 June 2012 - 08:32 AM.


#263 Lonner

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:27 AM

View PostAdridos, on 13 June 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

Why would you add such thing? It's not canon and only thing it helps is noobish behavior. ;)


+1
I completely agree with you. It'll takes skill and precision to handle a mech, while with 360 will favor noobish behavior as you pointed out.

#264 BlindProphet

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:36 AM

View PostTeralitha, on 15 June 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:


I generall ignore your senseless logic concerning me because you have yet to say anything that resembles the truth. You really are blind mr. prophet, the name suits you perfectly. You dont read, you dont listen to reason, and you keep insulting me with nothing to disprove why 360 isnt good for the game. You have absolutety nothing. Your whole entire existence here = fail.


Where have I lied? Can you point out an instance in where I have been incorrect? Please go ahead and correct me where I've been wrong! If I've been incorrect please do show me where I have so that I might correct my mistakes.

I have provided evidence that breaking from the universes canon is a slippery slope that has been proven in the past to be bad. I have stated that I don't see a need for it in the game. I have stated that I don't see where what extremely little it adds in terms of gameplay is actually good for the game. I have stated that its not canon. I have asked you several questions which you refuse to answer. I can only assume this is because you have nothing to back up the claims you make.

I have stated you have been intellectually dishonest and have provided examples, at your request, in how you were being intellectually dishonest.

You have not once in this thread provided a single reasoned response to the questions asked, and have instead just provided insult after insult after insult, and dismissed any argument against you.

#265 Sylow

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 08:40 AM

View PostSMDMadCow, on 15 June 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

And this has gone on long enough. Requesting thread be locked.

We are a Battletech Community here, we are better than this so lets show it.


Oh, please no! This is the lightning rod thead at the moment! If this thread gets locked, all the hate and bile will flow over to the other threads. Also, i enjoy sometimes browsing through a thread reeking of hate and ignorance... ;)

#266 BFalcon

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 09:12 AM

View PostSMDMadCow, on 15 June 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

And this has gone on long enough. Requesting thread be locked.

We are a Battletech Community here, we are better than this so lets show it.


Yeah... I've walked away from this one now - just dropping by from time to time now to see how bad things are getting.

#267 Freyar

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:04 AM

View PostTeralitha, on 15 June 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:

Support 360, Support Diversity, Support IQ


In short: Agree with me, or you're stupid. That's an excellent stance to take. I hear the Republicans and Democrats both embrace that philosophy pretty strongly.

#268 alben5k

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:09 AM

View PostTeralitha, on 15 June 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

Yet, I havent recieved so much as a warning. This might be because the moderators are agreeing with my comments... I dunno...


I am not exiled, therefore you (probably) agree with me.

Good logic.The Westboro Baptist Church agrees with you.

#269 Blastkowitz

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:27 AM

How about this and this is just off the top of my head and sorry in advance for the lack of technical terms but remeber this is a at the moment type thing. Allow for 360 rotation as a last resort. A single no holds barred attack.

Battle is going bad, the mechwarriror flips a swtich that disengages the torso servo stops and at the same time locks the mechwarrior in the cockpit. The mech then at high speed, depending on the individual mech, swings its torso 360 degrees with all weapons firing for...oh lets say for now 5 secs. After the 5 secs, provided the mech has not overheated the mech shutsdown and has to be brought back online if possible.

The was an old sci-fi movie from the 80's called Starfighter or something like that that did a manuver type I am refering too. Hope this makes sense and obviously just a thought not exactly fleshed out but perhaps something to consider.

Edited by Blastkowitz, 15 June 2012 - 10:47 AM.


#270 Tekkiller

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:39 AM

I have read all the books (not including Dark Ages) and played MW 1-3. I cannot remember reading about mechs with 360degree torso twist anywhere. Further, it removes a limitation. Limitations create opportunities which can be exploited with tactical gameplay. That's what improves the game, just as the difference between arms/torso reticule is a limitation that improves the game.

Why is this even being brought up?

#271 Veldrin Coulbauth

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 10:48 AM

If they implement 360 keep it to light mechs that would give them somthing of an advatage. But I will wait and see, though more I think about it the less I like the diea.

to parahrase and earlier post by Giest Null, its a mech not a turret

#272 Ghost

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 11:03 AM

This thread has outlived its useful lifespan. Teralitha, I think you need to calm down.





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