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#1 metalmasterstefan

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:07 AM

does someone knows when hardcore mode is possible?

#2 DEMAX51

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:21 AM

They haven't said. In fact, all they've said is that it may or may not happen.

#3 Mc JR

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:31 AM

I hope it does seeing as how they put it there!!

#4 Sasha Volkova

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:35 AM

There is a big fat chance it will never happen.
Why?
Cuz PGI.

#5 Bloodshed Romance

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:53 AM

I believe you should read both of these threads
http://mwomercs.com/...85#entry2678285
http://mwomercs.com/...eedback-thread/

#6 Here5y

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:55 AM

Hardcore Mode has to happen, it sux this way, you cant play a 12 vs 12 , people are exploiting the **** out of 3rd Person.

#7 Davoke

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:04 AM

View PostPlizzken, on 23 August 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:

Hardcore Mode has to happen, it sux this way, you cant play a 12 vs 12 , people are exploiting the **** out of 3rd Person.


I'd like to know how, given the fact that aiming is incredibly difficult, your radar is disabled, and someone playing in 1st who decides to stand anywhere below you can't be seen...

#8 Kiritumi

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:24 AM

Why dont they just have 12 v 12 as 1pv only? Seems logical for now o.o

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:28 AM

View PostDavoke, on 23 August 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:


I'd like to know how, given the fact that aiming is incredibly difficult, your radar is disabled, and someone playing in 1st who decides to stand anywhere below you can't be seen...


Because you can look over and around hills in 3pv. Pretty obvious really especially with all the screenshots around the forums and posts describing exactly that....

#10 Sasha Volkova

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:33 AM

View PostRina, on 23 August 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

Why dont they just have 12 v 12 as 1pv only? Seems logical for now o.o

Because that would still leave alot of people like me unhappy.
People who want a 1pv only que as their normal que.
I dont play "casual".
Even when I PUG I try to win.
Still with this 3pv genie above my head ability that makes me able to spot and be spotted safely I can not stress enough how little fun this game is becomming.
Currently its either exploit 3pv to ridge peak and corner peak, or face people who does it against you.

Its simply not a solution before we get a seperate 1pv only que in all dropmodes.

Edited by 0okami, 23 August 2013 - 11:35 AM.


#11 Kiritumi

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:40 AM

View Post0okami, on 23 August 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:



It would only be a temporary solution as in solo-4 group launching would have it for new players as per the reason it is there and 12 group launching would not as per people who want a hardcore mode. Just until we get the other hardcore mode launching. But even then the launches would be split into four groups. And really people who play 12 group launch seem unlikely to use third that much so the separate hardcore for it is pointless.

#12 Sasha Volkova

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:02 PM

View PostRina, on 23 August 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:


It would only be a temporary solution as in solo-4 group launching would have it for new players as per the reason it is there and 12 group launching would not as per people who want a hardcore mode. Just until we get the other hardcore mode launching. But even then the launches would be split into four groups. And really people who play 12 group launch seem unlikely to use third that much so the separate hardcore for it is pointless.

No, a 1pv only que is needed badly for the casual people aswell.
Many players that play in 4 mans (and when pgi finally alows it, 5-11 mans) still wants a 1pv only que.
These are players that are aware of the clear perspective benefit you gain by being able to exploit 3pv for peeking around and over objects ingame.
These are players that, due to and incompetent move from PGI to force 3pv upon us, have been forced to play in a mixed que atm.
These are players that are not interested in being forced to exploit a feature due to risking this same feature being exploited against them.

Here we are not talking about the people who spend and entire match in 3pv.
No.
We are talking about the players who, such as I, swap between the 2 views to gain a clear battlefiend advantage over their enemies.

Take these examples,

You want to scout over the ridge but you fear scouting over the ridge since there might be enemies hiding there aiming at the ridge...

Well with 3pv it is not a problem anymore as you just pop that drone and take a look!
Sure they now know you are there, but they can not damage you.
Now you simply pop the drone back down and move around that dangerous ridge and unless they reposition you now have a clear flank on them.

Now compare that to without 3pv.

You want to scout the ridge and since you cant use 3pv to scout safely you take a peek.
AND AT THAT SAME MOMENT YOU GET HIT BY 12 MECHS WAITING FOR YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE CORING YOU AND KILLING YOU IN A SECOND!

The fact is that when you crossed that ridge, they knew you were there but they could shoot you - but when you popped that drone, they knew you were there BUT THEY COULD NOT SHOOT YOU!

Do you now see the clear advantage that 3pv gives?

#13 Kiritumi

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:07 PM

View Post0okami, on 23 August 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:




I know how it works, I was only suggesting an idea. . .

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:29 PM

Come on guys. New Player forum. Keep it informational and helpful, not argumentative and divisive.





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