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[Tice Daurus]

Almond Brown, on 17 September 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:

Not sure of how many Players MWO has on the servers, but NO Poll on here will ever get enough Votes, one way or the other, to make a real difference. To many players who are playing are just playing and could give a rats arse about Polls about whatever. They just play.

BTW. If you missed it. Today's Patch makes this Poll moot anyways. If anyone does not like mixed 3PV, they can now play in the 3PV Free 12 v 12 queue. That should solve the 3PV Hater's issue right?

I got money that says it turns out just like the 8 v 8 scenario. Lets see how many flock over there, and then stay, after they find out that "ROTFStomping" ain't so easy when Teams actually fight. LOL!

They will all soon decide that 3PV ain't so bad after all, when all you can handle is ROTFSTOMP'ing PUGS and think your good doing so.

Almond, I would have to disagree with your first portion of the comment. I think this poll did help, if only to let PGI know what the people wanted to see, even if everyone didn't vote on this poll. It allowed PGI to get a sample vote of what people in general wanted to see, and I did my best to make this poll as fair and unbiased as possible so that they could not dismiss this poll as being such.

As for today's patch, it certainly is a step in the right direction. It's still not what some of us wanted, but it's step in the right direction for people who want to play competitive 12 vs 12 man teams to play ONLY in a 1PV environment, and I would like to thank PGI for doing that.

I'm glad I made this poll, because at least I can say I tried to help the community. I don't know if my poll helped PGI, but I love MechWarrior and BattleTech, and I hope that PGI did listen to us and this poll helped influence them into making the best decision possible for both them and the community at large.

[Almond Brown]

Tice Daurus, on 17 September 2013 - 10:34 AM, said:

Almond, I would have to disagree with your first portion of the comment. I think this poll did help, if only to let PGI know what the people wanted to see, even if everyone didn't vote on this poll. It allowed PGI to get a sample vote of what people in general wanted to see, and I did my best to make this poll as fair and unbiased as possible so that they could not dismiss this poll as being such.

As for today's patch, it certainly is a step in the right direction. It's still not what some of us wanted, but it's step in the right direction for people who want to play competitive 12 vs 12 man teams to play ONLY in a 1PV environment, and I would like to thank PGI for doing that.

I'm glad I made this poll, because at least I can say I tried to help the community. I don't know if my poll helped PGI, but I love MechWarrior and BattleTech, and I hope that PGI did listen to us and this poll helped influence them into making the best decision possible for both them and the community at large.

I do not dislike your Poll. I am just saying that if a Forum based Poll could truly make a difference, then the Poll that said NO 3PV Ever would have done the trick right? More than 2K votes. Turns out the Forums are not the vast majority of people who do or would play MWO.

Not to bursts bubbles or anything. The Forums have proven themselves nothing more than a place for the haters to gather and massage each others e-peens. Sadly they have not really helped themselves, nor anyone else with that attitude.

Playing the game is where it is at. These Forums have become the Joke of the Internet they deserve to be. With Launch announced, this place will get over run with even more of the same that OB brought. So I hope to see you on the Battlefield. This place is simply burnt toast.

Edited by Almond Brown, 17 September 2013 - 10:42 AM.

[DarthMolen]

For the record, I am giving mad props to Russ for coming out and posting what he did about the mis-communication.

http://mwomercs.com/...te-and-apology/

My biggest issue wasn't the mix, although I was kinda peeved about that, it was the communication or lack thereof. That has been rectified.

That out of the way... I have grown used to the 3PV/1PV queue and I kinda don't mind anymore. Mainly, its faded out of my care. Doesn't mean other aren't getting a value add, just I forget as I fight in the battles.

I would still love a separate hardcore queue, and if that's community warfare, GREAT!

[Enigmos]

We should have 3PV on the practice maps so we can see our paint but we should be able to rotate the camera. 3PV should be available on all maps in all queues except 12 -v- 12 for players with fewer than 24 matches under their belt, and then 3PV should go away except on the practice ranges.

[ryoma]

DarthMolen, on 17 September 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

For the record, I am giving mad props to Russ for coming out and posting what he did about the mis-communication.

http://mwomercs.com/...te-and-apology/

My biggest issue wasn't the mix, although I was kinda peeved about that, it was the communication or lack thereof. That has been rectified.

That out of the way... I have grown used to the 3PV/1PV queue and I kinda don't mind anymore. Mainly, its faded out of my care. Doesn't mean other aren't getting a value add, just I forget as I fight in the battles.

I would still love a separate hardcore queue, and if that's community warfare, GREAT!

DarthMolen, on 17 September 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

For the record, I am giving mad props to Russ for coming out and posting what he did about the mis-communication.

http://mwomercs.com/...te-and-apology/

My biggest issue wasn't the mix, although I was kinda peeved about that, it was the communication or lack thereof. That has been rectified.

That out of the way... I have grown used to the 3PV/1PV queue and I kinda don't mind anymore. Mainly, its faded out of my care. Doesn't mean other aren't getting a value add, just I forget as I fight in the battles.

I would still love a separate hardcore queue, and if that's community warfare, GREAT!

That was the biggest and most insulting non-apology I've ever seen. The fact that communication has failed to improve since then is proof of that too.

[Lupus Aurelius]

ryoma, on 17 September 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

That was the biggest and most insulting non-apology I've ever seen. The fact that communication has failed to improve since then is proof of that too.

Preach it, brother!

[Jestun]

Almond Brown, on 17 September 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:

Not sure of how many Players MWO has on the servers, but NO Poll on here will ever get enough Votes, one way or the other, to make a real difference. To many players who are playing are just playing and could give a rats arse about Polls about whatever. They just play.

BTW. If you missed it. Today's Patch makes this Poll moot anyways. If anyone does not like mixed 3PV, they can now play in the 3PV Free 12 v 12 queue. That should solve the 3PV Hater's issue right?

I got money that says it turns out just like the 8 v 8 scenario. Lets see how many flock over there, and then stay, after they find out that "ROTFStomping" ain't so easy when Teams actually fight. LOL!

They will all soon decide that 3PV ain't so bad after all, when all you can handle is ROTFSTOMP'ing PUGS and think your good doing so.

If you are willing to employ enough people that 11 of them are online and available to join the pre-made 12 man queue with me at the drop of a hat (in mechs that compliment whatever I want to play as) so that I can play 1st person then yes... problem solved.

[Captain Stiffy]

Tice Daurus, on 23 August 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

I wanted to post this here so we can help PGI see what we want with our vote for the future. VOTE HERE, if you'd like to discuss your vote as well, do so below. Also, I am trying to keep this voting/polling fair and unbiased. If you want to help with suggesting a change to the voting, please list your addition/change.

I think that this entire 3PV argument is the HUGEST WASTE of development time in the entire history of this game.


AS FOLLOWS; (FOR THE GOOD OF THE GAME AND THE STAFF)

1) 3PV as it is implemented now STINKS for any good player. It nerfs you to have it up and good players only use it to maneuver, like it was intended, because it MAKES YOU BAD TO USE IT IN COMBAT! Nobody should want to use this mode. Bads fight in this mode because this mode will make anyone bad.
2) There is no reason whatsoever that your mech couldn't have a DING-DONG! WHAT? simple camera on it. None. Be thankful it doesn't just have one mounted on the top of it! It has an entire sensor suite dedicated to warfare and for some reason people think that having a CAMERA is non-cannon? There are tons of other non-cannon things in this game that nobody even notices. The scarce elevation bonus that this grants you is almost nill because of the fixed mode of the camera and complaining about that is like complaining about how good the rest of the game is compared to you - nobody cares about the advantage that EVERYONE HAS. I could go through the 3050 book right now and find mechs with cameras on them.

Please?

please.

If the issue is that you aren't happy with the direction of the game so far well, when you bought in you didn't know how it was going to go and you knew you didn't know, so please let us all get on board with whatever ACTUAL PLAN they have instead of constantly crying the foulest airs over the littlest things.

If I were someone new reading this thread I would think that this was the largest issue in the entire game right now and it is quite possibly the smallest.

[Lupus Aurelius]

Captain Stiffy, sounds like you are so mad that you now have Major Woody...

PS - the issue is far beyond just the mechanics and the options. It's the lack of credibility by PGI. If you have read anything about this issue, the way it has been handled over the past year is unacceptable, by anyone's standards of integrity.

Edited by Lupus Aurelius, 18 September 2013 - 03:16 PM.

[Neutron IX]

There needed to be an option for "No preference" or the like.

The UI is so gimped in 3PV, it's nearly impossible for me to consider playing in 3PV as giving someone an advantage over me.

I play in 1PV, and feel like that gives me an advantage over anyone playing in 3PV, so sure, leave it as it is, especially if having that option makes the game a little more playable for someone who prefers that point of view.

[Troutmonkey]

Why is this thread even here? 3rd Person is here to stay and as far as I can tell it's a non issue except for newbies who can't figure out how to turn it off, but that's more to do with MWO being pretty average at easing in new players.

[GalaxyBluestar]