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[Zarlaren]

I'm finding Victors very weak I sold the 9B and the 9K I really wanted to love this mech but it's torsos are like tissue paper it is more like a heavy mech then a Assault in terms of defense and offense. Just cause two Victor variants can use AC/20 don't make it good. I wanted to love this mech but just too weak to be a assault I would like to see the Victor get the love it needs.

VICTOR VTR-9K 195 72 122 0.59 15 131 0.11 7,686 47,885 17:22:31
VICTOR VTR-9B 29 13 16 0.81 9 15 0.60 2,172 9,399 03:03:13

Edited by Zarla, 25 August 2013 - 09:39 PM.

[Johnny Reb]

Viktor Drake, on 25 August 2013 - 12:57 PM, said:

Kintaro, at least so far.

Nah! Usless isnt about how easy it is to take it down! Will take my Kint-18 over any:
Commando
Raven (minus 3L)
Cicada (minus 3M)
Black Jack (minus 1x)
Dragon (minus Flame)

Great Hardpoint mech bad hitboxes. Still usable in pugs just not 12 man....yet, hopefull.

[KharnZor]

Zarla, on 25 August 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

I'm finding Victors very weak I sold the 9B and the 9K I really wanted to love this mech but it's torsos are like tissue paper it is more like a heavy mech then a Assault in terms of defense and offense. Just cause two Victor variants can use AC/20 don't make it good. I wanted to love this mech but just too weak to be a assault I would like to see the Victor get the love it needs.

VICTOR VTR-9K 195 72 122 0.59 15 131 0.11 7,686 47,885 17:22:31
VICTOR VTR-9B 29 13 16 0.81 9 15 0.60 2,172 9,399 03:03:13

I love the Victor. Its the best assault mech imo so far (barely nudging the Highlander out of that position I think) It has the capability to be highly mobile given its engine rating and the use of jump jets gives it a definite advantage. I think you are just doing it wrong.

Edited by KharnZor, 26 August 2013 - 03:53 PM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

The Hunch is a good Medium and a good mech in general. The OP just needs a little more experience.

The worst mech might be the Locust. I know it isn't out yet, but I am a bit leary about it. We won't really know though until we have time with it once it launches.

Existing worst mech...Maybe the Awesome or the Kintaro. Mostly hitbox issues hurt these mechs. Overall though, I don't feel any mech is terrible, just some are better than others.

[Escef]

MeiSooHaityu, on 27 August 2013 - 08:05 AM, said:

The Hunch is a good Medium and a good mech in general. The OP just needs a little more experience.

The worst mech might be the Locust. I know it isn't out yet, but I am a bit leary about it. We won't really know though until we have time with it once it launches.

Existing worst mech...Maybe the Awesome or the Kintaro. Mostly hitbox issues hurt these mechs. Overall though, I don't feel any mech is terrible, just some are better than others.

I dunno, the Locust is going to be stupid fast, and probably around the same size as a Commando. And the 3M (confirmed in) is going to have at least 5 energy hardpoints for multiple small laser goodness (dart in, paper cuts, dart out, lather, rinse, repeat). There's potential.

But as you say, it remains to be seen.

[DarkDevilDancer]

Just finnished mastering a kintaro and i have to say is awful, had a game earlier where i was down to 62% and the only location stripped of armour was the CT, it cant brawl and there are better chassis to use as LRM carriers.

[Johnny Reb]

DarkDevilDancer, on 27 August 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

Just finnished mastering a kintaro and i have to say is awful, had a game earlier where i was down to 62% and the only location stripped of armour was the CT, it cant brawl and there are better chassis to use as LRM carriers.

I agree, the Kintaro is bad just not the worse, mastered mine last week using only lrms and ppc to stay at range. Would not use it as a close srm currently.

[Pliskkenn D]

Johnny Reb, on 25 August 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

Nah! Usless isnt about how easy it is to take it down! Will take my Kint-18 over any:
Commando
Raven (minus 3L)
Cicada (minus 3M)
Black Jack (minus 1x)
Dragon (minus Flame)

Great Hardpoint mech bad hitboxes. Still usable in pugs just not 12 man....yet, hopefull.

Johnny Reb, on 27 August 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

I agree, the Kintaro is bad just not the worse, mastered mine last week using only lrms and ppc to stay at range. Would not use it as a close srm currently.

Yeah, Dragon and Kintaro are just about playing on hard mode. It's all about finding your niche, same as most mechs. At least the Dragon and Kintaro can fit decent weapon load outs.

[VXJaeger]

All Commandoes. They just run here and there like "HiiHoo, I'm the gingerbread man!!1!" and die immediatelly when somebody sees and fires on them

Edited by VXJaeger, 28 August 2013 - 03:44 AM.

[Escef]

VXJaeger, on 28 August 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

All Commandoes. They just run here and there like "HiiHoo, I'm the gingerbread man!!1!" and die immediatelly when somebody sees and fires on them

Amazingly enough, I actually call me Stealthmando The Gingerbread Man. The strangest thing about fast lights is that people in heavies and assaults will try to chase them, even on maps with lots of cover. Seriously, guys?

[Zarlaren]

VXJaeger, on 28 August 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

All Commandoes. They just run here and there like "HiiHoo, I'm the gingerbread man!!1!" and die immediatelly when somebody sees and fires on them

Gingmando or Gingermando good names for a commando. "Hiii i'm the gingerbread commando of ginger doom perpar to die to ginger srms loaded with ginger frosting ....*Booom* NOOOOO IMPOSSIBLE!!!"

Edited by Zarla, 28 August 2013 - 10:53 AM.

[ricardox]

Zarla, on 25 August 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

I'm finding Victors very weak I sold the 9B and the 9K I really wanted to love this mech but it's torsos are like tissue paper it is more like a heavy mech then a Assault in terms of defense and offense. Just cause two Victor variants can use AC/20 don't make it good. I wanted to love this mech but just too weak to be a assault I would like to see the Victor get the love it needs.

VICTOR VTR-9K 195 72 122 0.59 15 131 0.11 7,686 47,885 17:22:31
VICTOR VTR-9B 29 13 16 0.81 9 15 0.60 2,172 9,399 03:03:13

Victors are great! They have (other than the DS):
1) Direct fire weapons are on the arms (so circle reticle delivers most of your point and shoot weapons)
2) Can be fast for an Assault
3) Has JJ
4) Even has Missile slots


I find it to be one of the best assaults.

DarkDevilDancer, on 27 August 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

Just finnished mastering a kintaro and i have to say is awful, had a game earlier where i was down to 62% and the only location stripped of armour was the CT, it cant brawl and there are better chassis to use as LRM carriers.

Kinda on a tour to elite/master as many chassis as possible before my premium runs out (Start again when it launches) and the Kintaro is the last one I did.

I found only way to keep it alive is to RUN and FAST. If an assault or a heavy looks at it funny, it takes 30 to the CT if it's standing still. On the other hand, chasing lights with SSRMs and lasers is pretty fun.. and probably the only thing it's good for at the moment.

[Risko Vinsheen]

Escef, on 27 August 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

I dunno, the Locust is going to be stupid fast, and probably around the same size as a Commando. And the 3M (confirmed in) is going to have at least 5 energy hardpoints for multiple small laser goodness (dart in, paper cuts, dart out, lather, rinse, repeat). There's potential.

But as you say, it remains to be seen.

I guess you could say it's...
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Unseen.

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