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#1 DarthMolen

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:29 AM

All that time it was promised to have a separate queue... and yet it's not here and I'm extremely disappointed.

This is the MOST disappointing change that i've seen from MWO.

Promises should be kept, not broken. period. Trust has to be earned after its broken.

#2 Captain Katawa

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 02:50 AM

Do you understand that we're kind of in beta and content is still to be added tested and changed?

Separating queues now will result only in increasing search time since there are quite few active players.
If game ever gains opularity there will be lots of stuff and hardcore/softcore game modes like in War Thunder.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 04:41 AM

View PostCaptain Katawa, on 28 August 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

Do you understand that we're kind of in beta and content is still to be added tested and changed?

Separating queues now will result only in increasing search time since there are quite few active players.
If game ever gains opularity there will be lots of stuff and hardcore/softcore game modes like in War Thunder.


Do you understand that this game has been in "PAID BETA" for a year now , BETA is the umberella excuse this game is sitting under seeking shelter from the **** storm .

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 04:56 AM

Yeah its called put in in second gear already, what kind of Nimrod drives around in 1st gear all day long?

View PostMaarvelous, on 28 August 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:


Do you understand that this game has been in "PAID BETA" for a year now , BETA is the umberella excuse this game is sitting under seeking shelter from the **** storm .

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 28 August 2013 - 04:56 AM.


#5 Captain Katawa

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:39 AM

"Paid beta"

Not EXACTLY paid, consider it donation to help developers, the game is 100% free.

#6 Desdain

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:48 AM

View PostCaptain Katawa, on 28 August 2013 - 05:39 AM, said:

"Paid beta"

Not EXACTLY paid, consider it donation to help developers, the game is 100% free.

Donations are made to charities. PGI is a for profit business. Don't mince words. This has been a soft launch since November.

#7 Sasha Volkova

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:54 AM

To clear all and any confusion here in this thread...

Beta - a state of a game that is in testing and is yet to be released - normally all data is wiped in the end of this phase - there will be patches on a regular basis - during this state the game is NON-PROFIT based.

Released game - a state of a game that is no longer in testing and has been released - in this state there will not be anymore data wipes and everything you get is something you can keep - there will be patches on a regular basis, fixing and balancing as always to make sure the game is fun for everyone - during this state the game is also allowing micro transactions and subscriptions if those were planned for the game.

Now try to see what MWO does....

Edited by 0okami, 28 August 2013 - 05:56 AM.


#8 S3dition

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:26 AM

Except you're both wrong. Tech demo, alpha, and beta are all completely arbitrary terms. There is no set parameters to fit a program into one. You can buy a beta. You can buy an alpha. I can run a game in beta for 30 years if I feel like it. When the game officially launches next month, nothing will magically change except what PGI chooses to call it.

This isn't an argument for or against anything. I'm just clarifying. They could be calling this the alpha if they wanted to. It makes absolutely no difference.

Edited by S3dition, 28 August 2013 - 08:28 AM.


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:22 AM

Officially launching next month? Without content - clans currently have no use ingame whatsoever? Without any real objective-based game modes with attack/defense phases like it should have been done in the first place? Without proper UI? Try-before-you-buy system? Without a tutorial? I imagine this will go well.

Edited by Enderman, 28 August 2013 - 09:24 AM.


#10 Blacktemplar223

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:55 AM

Am I the only person who laughed at the irony of the title?

#11 Spaismahn

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:32 AM

Now, when they promised this, was a cross your heart situation or was it a pinky swear amalgamation? Did anyone bother to ask if PGI crossed their fingers behind their back, therefore, nullifying the oath? These things are important to determine the level of true social injustice inflicted upon the gaming population.

#12 DarthMolen

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 04:37 PM

Eh. I made a calculated bet, paying for beta. I lost. what more is there?

the titles of beta/alpha/gamma/kappa are all arbitrary.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:31 PM

View PostCaptain Katawa, on 28 August 2013 - 05:39 AM, said:

"Paid beta"

Not EXACTLY paid, consider it donation to help developers, the game is 100% free.



Wrong !

Several thousand of us pumped 5 million bucks into this game. That's not a donation, that's Funding.

Edited by Ensaine, 28 August 2013 - 05:31 PM.


#14 Kobra Kommander

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:37 PM

This game is now a **** pile, and has been since heat scaling. Uninstalled, I want a refund. FUCKYOUPIRANHADIEINAFIRE

#15 Uncleclint

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:54 PM

Sometimes it makes me wonder - they call it civilization, though it´s still able to produce posts like the one above (Kwolf not OP) with threats and such.

View PostDarthMolen, on 24 August 2013 - 07:29 AM, said:

All that time it was promised to have a separate queue... and yet it's not here and I'm extremely disappointed.

This is the MOST disappointing change that i've seen from MWO.

Promises should be kept, not broken. period. Trust has to be earned after its broken.
Couldn´t agree more, though i feel like not playing the game and playing grumpy old mechwarrior instead ain´t the right way either. I think i will play a lot more MWO, but spend my money elsewhere in the near to very distant future - it does say free to play doesn´t it?And free i will feel, oh yeah. If trust level is back at where it had been a month ago, maybe some pockets will open up again... maybe not... it´s a karma thing mainly... i think.

Edited by HAS UncleClint, 29 August 2013 - 12:00 AM.


#16 Icedman

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 12:49 AM

I wouldn't hold your breath about them keeping their separate 1pv hardcore queues. The latest "poll" they want people to answer basically says "vote no if you don't want 12v12 as 1pv only and vote yes if you do want 12v12 1pv only.... oh and if you vote yes or no, either vote will count as tacit approval to remove the hardcore option from the menu and keep PUG and 4p drops as mixed queues"

They've already reneged on this issue multiple times... what's one more false promise to them?

#17 DeadlyNerd

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:07 AM

View PostCaptain Katawa, on 28 August 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

Do you understand that we're kind of in beta and content is still to be added tested and changed?

Separating queues now will result only in increasing search time since there are quite few active players.
If game ever gains opularity there will be lots of stuff and hardcore/softcore game modes like in War Thunder.

Do you understand that separating queues wont do a thing cause nobody will be playing 3PV?

#18 Zphyr

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 07:09 AM

Nobody playing 3PV? Hey, newbies are people too! Poor guys are stuck at 3PV until they either discover the forums or someone tells them... Light joke aside, I agree with you that relatively few players would choose pure 3PV as it is.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:11 AM

Beta.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:00 AM

They had a chance to have me buy back in, but this putting only a toe in the water on doing what they promised won't be good enough to have me give them the 110 for the phoenix stuff.

I likely won't be playing anytime soon as a result of the outrage this situation makes me feel.

That outrage if they gave HARDCORE mode fully available for ALL people so when I am ALONE I can still play in 1pv Bliss...would all disappear.

Edited by Lugh, 29 August 2013 - 10:00 AM.






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