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[Heffay]

KharnZor, on 28 August 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

Stop misrepresenting the facts you pathetic troll.

I'm sorry, but those are the facts. People want a way to play this game 1PV only. It looks like PGI is listening to their core players, and providing that option for them. And from the way the voting is going, over 90% of the people agree with this option.

Those are the facts. Did I get something wrong?

[repete]

Correction:

Bryan Ekman, on 28 August 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

This gives our core audience, who represent represented almost exclusively the 12 man team group play, a place to enjoy a pure 1PV experience.

Too little, too late Bryan.

PS - Wow. Looks like PGI or IGP removed my old signature for me. Just, wow. When you have nothing to counter what people say, just censor them. Truth hurt much?

Edited by repete, 28 August 2013 - 02:51 PM.

[RG Notch]

Looks like the one dev post a day policy is still in effect, maybe the post tomorrow can address some of this issues raised in this feedback, oh well at least one question. I like how they apologize for bad communication and keep right on with the bad communication. I guess it's better to ask forgiveness about bad communication than to actually communicate better.

[Maethos]

Heffay, on 28 August 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

But... but you will have that option now. I thought that is what you were looking for: PGI to hold up their end of the promise.

This is a small bandage for a big wound. for lone wolfs and/or daily c-bill grinding you would still be in 3pv vs 1pv and that not holding up to anything. 12 men premade is forcing players into a niche Q. also if were a vocal minority and past polls did not matter, why use it yet again? PGI is just trying to tweak it untill they can do little and seem like they are working with us. IMO anyways

Maethos

[Ranik Selesky]

Bryan we are trying to work with you here but this carrot dangling poll is just as bad as the Pseudo apology.


You must admit your error before anything else. Only then can you actually freaking change it and give everyone an option to play how they want in what game mode they want.

[Pezzer]

So...no Hardcore modes yet? That's ok I guess, a little depressing but not a game-breaker. Hopefully it will be implemented by RELEASE? That would be a pleasant surprise. Along with several other balance tweaks, thus perfecting the game. Would love to see an increase in C-Bills as well, please!

[ZonbiBadger]

Silent, on 28 August 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

You don't listen to community polls anyway so why should I bother voting?

Get lost.

Says the guy on their forums.

[soarra]

Pezzer, on 28 August 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

So...no Hardcore modes yet? That's ok I guess, a little depressing but not a game-breaker. Hopefully it will be implemented by RELEASE? That would be a pleasant surprise. Along with several other balance tweaks, thus perfecting the game. Would love to see an increase in C-Bills as well, please!

they haven't come near balancing this game since early CB, what makes you think they can do it in a few weeks4

[Deathlike]

repete, on 28 August 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Correction:

The sad part is that I solo PUG a lot when I don't have friends on to team up with. 12-man is not even a common thing for me, but I play it enough to "stay updated".

The funny thing about the ice cream analogy that I've posted earlier? It fits perfectly with the 12v12 rewards system, but you know, the existence of this thread is great for obscuring that major complaint.

[Slopey]

Heffay, on 28 August 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

And from the way the voting is going, over 90% of the people agree with this option.

Those are the facts. Did I get something wrong?

90% agree with the poll as given.

It doesn't mean that the options given in the poll is what 90% of people actually want.

Edited by Slopey, 28 August 2013 - 01:38 PM.

[Jack Gallows]

So, you ignored the poll asking if 3PV should be added and now you want us to vote on another poll that'll most likely get ignored in much the same fashion?

Sorry, my trust issues are showing.

[Deathlike]

soarra, on 28 August 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

they haven't come near balancing this game since early CB, what makes you think they can do it in a few weeks4

Dart board of balance.

The thing is, balance is an iterative process, and I still don't value LPLs after all the changes. Of course all "balance changes" take a month according to PGI and launch is 3 weeks away...

[DeadlyNerd]

it's a good start, now how about you stop BSing us and put in hardcore for any number of players?

[Sythe]

No. I think you could balance 3pv. Make it so we an target the mech if we see the drone. Decrease FOV. Add a pixelation filter so anything over 500 is a blur. Take out ther other vison modes whilein 3pv etc.

Don't bow down to bullies who just want it their way. Make the game how you need to so it is fun, replayable, balanced, competitive and, profitable

[Kraven Kor]

Too little, too late.

PGI is on the same list for me as EA: DO NOT BUY, EVER, PERIOD.

You could offer me a gold-plated Marauder with +100% PPC damage and I still would not return.

[Morang]

Jack Gallows, on 28 August 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

So, you ignored the poll asking if 3PV should be added and now you want us to vote on another poll that'll most likely get ignored in much the same fashion?

Sorry, my trust issues are showing.

Or they will pick this poll and say that people are content with 1PV-only gameplay being limited to 12 vs 12 because that's how the poll is formulated. And praise themselves for taking the wishes of community into account.

[Heat Seeking Civet]

Wintersdark, on 28 August 2013 - 10:30 AM, said:

Works for me. Those who are the most upset about the deal get what they want, and the player pool for PUG matches isn't fragmented. Everyone wins.

Except for the people who don't want to have to try-hard in a 12 man, and instead want to just have fun in a 4 man group without getting rolled by 3pv pop-tarts. My whole beef is that it turns the "Casual" play into the most try-hard piece of boring imaginable. Just like counter-strike and the AWP people exploit the casual play to get the highest K/D they possibly can. It is ruining normal drops. You can't just play casually because the moment you do 6 drones start lifting off from the nearest ridge-line and you go splat. I shouldn't have to queue with a bunch of strangers just to avoid a bunch of try-hards exploiting every mechanic they can.

Edited by ForestGnome, 28 August 2013 - 01:47 PM.

[Squid von Torgar]

Guys, vote yes for crying out loud, even if you don't frequent 12 v 12s I can guarantee you that if 1PV only isn't implemented there you will have no chance of seeing it in the wider game later.

Make it a landslide in order to increase the chances. PGI are watching, make sure your voice is heard.

[Deathlike]

Morang, on 28 August 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

Or they will pick this poll and say that people are content with 1PV-only gameplay being limited to 12 vs 12 because that's how the poll is formulated. And praise themselves for taking the wishes of community into account.

You know what I'm trying to figure out.. how does the core playerbase happen to be core of the 12-man queue?

Does anyone see the irony in that? If you haven't played the 12-man queue enough to realize you are literally "the minority" (it's a small queue really)... and the "core playerbase" is also the "vocal minority"...

I hope people can put 2 and 2 together... because it's so underhanded, it's brilliantly sad.

Edited by Deathlike, 28 August 2013 - 02:06 PM.

[soarra]

Squid von Torgar, on 28 August 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

Guys, vote yes for crying out loud, even if you don't frequent 12 v 12s I can guarantee you that if 1PV only isn't implemented there you will have no chance of seeing it in the wider game later.

Make it a landslide in order to increase the chances. PGI are watching, make sure your voice is heard.

the Poll is BS so i voted no