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Poll: Poll - Limit 12 V 12 Pre-Made Group Matches To 1Pv Only (1092 member(s) have cast votes)

Should 12 v 12 pre-made group matches be limited to 1PV (First Person) view mode only?

  1. Yes (983 votes [91.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.53%

  2. No (91 votes [8.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.47%

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#541 soarra

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:10 PM

View PostJetfire, on 28 August 2013 - 07:09 PM, said:


Yeah, about that... The core is here because this is mechwarrior, the 3PV players are here to try their flavor of the month game. The community is what new players will stick around for long term and keep the money coming in. The problem is the core has been waiting on this thing called Community Warfare to be convinced to spend more money.

you are looking at community warfare, just read the forums

#542 Xenois Shalashaska

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:11 PM



#543 Viper69

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:12 PM

Why limit it to premades? Jesus crist you guys at PGI even listen to people or just come up with random stuff on the cuff? We want separate queues period not just for phucking premades for phucks sake.

Quit dancing around it Bryan.

#544 Airborne Thunder

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:12 PM

56 people work for PGI.

#545 Viper69

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:13 PM

Ps im not voting in a biased poll that is spitting in the face of the people you lied to.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:15 PM

View PostViper69, on 28 August 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

Why limit it to premades? Jesus crist you guys at PGI even listen to people or just come up with random stuff on the cuff? We want separate queues period not just for phucking premades for phucks sake.

Quit dancing around it Bryan.

Exaclty. Just give us what you promised and this all goes away.

Edited by Airborne Thunder, 28 August 2013 - 07:30 PM.


#547 Wrayeth

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:15 PM

I did not vote in your poll. While I believe 12-v-12 1PV only is a step in the right direction, I am not going to vote for it as this could be misconstrued as supporting the lack of a 1PV-only queue. Additionally, I have never played in a 12-v-12 match since I prefer to play with a small group who are, in fact, friends, rather than merely acquaintances.

I will be continuing to boycott your game until such time as I can play solo or in a 4-man drop with 1PV only.

#548 Wolfways

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostAirborne Thunder, on 28 August 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

56 people work for PGI.

Not really as i guess PGI will be happy whatever the outcome of the poll as both options are the same.

I wonder how many players have voted without reading the whole post properly, not realising that they're screwing everyone.

#549 RussianWolf

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostRoji, on 28 August 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

My assumption is that those of us hardcore players, myself included, are not giving them enough revenue and they need to appeal to more people. Sure we've been lied to (well I have since I'm a founder) but this isn't game breaking nor does it change the core gameplay. The only advantage of 3pv is in fact scouting yes BUT all the other disadvantages go to show that it's truly not a big deal. In fact most of the good players say to never use 3pv, not even to scout, because of all the disadvantages.

The thing is in a 3pv enabled mixed queue, you are able to hit a button to engage an exploit to scout, then hit the button to disengage and have full functioning arms again. There is no disadvantage except to those who don't want this exploit used against them.

#550 Archon Adam Steiner

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:17 PM

Yes. Yes it should.

#551 Hollander Burial

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:18 PM

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The public queues will remain a mix of 1PV and 3PV modes and Hardcore mode will be removed from the drop down list.


just say no

Its not a compromise

#552 soarra

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:18 PM

http://meemsy.com/v/7988
3pv downfall parody i found

Edited by soarra, 28 August 2013 - 07:36 PM.


#553 Viper69

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:19 PM

So only people fortunate enough to be playing with 11 friends get to avoid this abomination of a lie? Bryan take this poll and toss it out with the other {Scrap} you are pushing. With all due respect your word is worth pocket lint any way.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:19 PM

View PostWolfways, on 28 August 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

Not really as i guess PGI will be happy whatever the outcome of the poll as both options are the same.

I wonder how many players have voted without reading the whole post properly, not realising that they're screwing everyone.


anyone that hit yes.

Its sad how ppl fall for this. First the unite and drop thing that just plays straight into their hands, now this. You guys win because youre smarter than your players lol

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:22 PM

View PostFranchi, on 28 August 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

This is NOT a good start, it is a thinly veiled bait and switch to get us all on record saying we don't want 1pv ques for every game mode.

RE READ THE OP

REALLY READ IT.

To those who voted yes in this poll, Thanks, thanks allot for tripping the claymore mine and KILLING our chances of getting 1pv ques.

To those who voted NO why are you here and not playing mechassault?


Franchi, et. al.,

After going back and reading it I would agree with your position (I might have been blind - I could swear the last part of keeping all the other queues hybrid was not there earlier - I was rushed when I was reading it.. might have missed it)

Consequently, yes, it does appear upon a reread to be a Straw Man at best, as the misrepresentation of the community's concerns is that the 12v12 queue was the only queue of concern for 1PV only. This is not the case at least from my perspective. This once again appears to be an attempt to obfuscate and recast some of the communities concerns; I really had hoped PGI was actually making an honest attempt to address the issues. This poll is extremely misleading...

From my perspective, even the PUG queues should have the 1PV (currently incorrectly termed Hardcore) option...

Gods, but this is annoying and the fact that this poll is disingenuous only galls more...

I really have to tip my hat to PGI as this is truly a ruthless endgame to this debate being proffered here; any which way people currently vote with this poll, they (PGI) win...

From my position this is a bogus poll and I won't be voting; not that it will mean much - they will just construe people not voting as being part of the "Silent Majority"...

Once again I will ask nicely, as least for myself, please reconsider the stance on the PUG queues, delete this poll, and come up with a better set of Poll options that represent a wider facet of community concerns...

#556 Viper69

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:22 PM

The only correct vote is not to vote. People who vote yes doom the rest of us to not having a choice. Am I the only person who sees this because over 200 people are too dense to understand that the poll is completely biased.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:24 PM

What about community warfare? WIll it be a blend of 1pv and 3pv or will it be 1pv only LIKE THEY PROMISED?

I would vote yes if they cleared this up :

Fast drop and play : 1pv and 3pv mix

Community Warfare games : 1pv only

12v12 drops : 1pv only (and when lobby comes in, choose between 1pv, 3pv or 1pv and 3pv)





I swear to god PGI, the way you're wording stuff is just ******* people off again. but hey, what else is new with the unprofessionnal way you guys are handling your community.



Related link : http://www.gamasutra...nt_.php?print=1

#558 Airborne Thunder

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:25 PM

View Postsoarra, on 28 August 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

http://meemsy.com/v/7988

3pv downfall parody i found

OMG! This isn't a parody. This is exactly how it is. I haven't lauged so hard in forever!

#559 Viper69

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:28 PM

I cant believe almost 700 people voted yes and are too blind to see the poll is spitting in the face of the rest of the community. So much for being united when the competitive people abandon everyone else once Bryan coddles their sacks a little bit. You all should be ashamed, you really should.

#560 xZaOx

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:29 PM

I'm REALLY confused. Why are you asking the vocal minority, that doesn't count for anything. Why come to our island and ask us? We don't matter remember.

Confused.





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