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[soarra]

Ranik Selesky, on 28 August 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

Oh by the way. I will be taking screenshots of the newer poll at 30 minute intervals until I go to sleep in an hour or two.

Afterwords if anyone wants to take a screenshot of the poll results and post a bit later to make sure that it doesn't "vanish" without some evidence. Please do

If you are going to be awake for a while feel free to check on it and grab a screenshot every couple of hours if you feel like it.

Proof begets accountability

I work nights so ill keep an eye in it and get caps from my phone

[Ezra The Bastard Davian]

Biased, Poll is Biased.

[Dragonkindred]

Personally I don't like the idea of 3PV. But, if you insist on having it in game then, at the very least, force people to choose one view at the start of a match and then they have to stick to it for the whole match.

[Caviel]

Ezra The ******* Davian, on 28 August 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

Biased, Poll is Biased.

Not biased, ogre's choice if you prefer no mixed 1PV/3PV. Do you vote no and voice your opinion that 3PV is OK everywhere, or yes and only do 1PV for 12 pilot groups only where the majority of players don't drop. At least this is my experience of only running into the same 2-3 groups whenever we form a pick-up 12 pilot group in DHB.

The third desired option which everyone is asking for is 1PV only drop options regardless of group size.

[Killashnikov]

http://www.google.co....51495398,d.dGI

[Nyden]

DLRevan, on 28 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

I'm pretty much done reading all these things. I keep clamouring for bryan or russ to say something that makes sense, but there's only so much I can take.

Those of you voting yes, or even voting at all, good on you. This poll is so loaded, its no different from the meaningless polls made by random users (not developers!) on other game forums. If you vote yes, then 12v12 will be 1PV only and this poll will be used as the excuse as to why the rest of MWO will never segregate 1PV and 3PV. Maybe even CW. If you vote no, then it'll be used as the reason why NOTHING in MWO will ever restrict 3PV. The right answer is to not vote at all.

Don't tell me that it only matters for premade 12v12. It doesn't. I bet you not even 50% of the core people (founders and what have you) are even playing premade 12v12. I will assume here that matchmaking actually works, and very high skilled PUG is roughly equivalent to low-mid premade skill level. That dilution is not going to change unless there is an explicit hardcore vs casual queue.

I'm pretty much done, as I've said. I see the point my friends have been making for months...they've all left long ago. No longer am I going to defend nonsense like this to others. I'm just posting this because it pains me to see people so taken in by a parlor trick, and as always I hope someone at PGI takes note, wakes up and decides he/she has to fix these messes that are ruining something that is really great at its core, both as a video game and as a part of BT.

And they better sit up and take notice. Because PGI/IGP chose to market this game through community & word-of-mouth means and clearly don't realize that that doesn't mean "hands-free advertising".

Since there was a lull in the action I wanted to make sure this was the last thing someone stopping in would see.

[Sharp Spikes]

My vote goes to...
Separate 1PV and 3PV queues for every type of drop.

[Corwin Vickers]

PGI still thinks we're idiots.

You would think they would stop trying to manage us and instead talk with us, level with us. Instead they make a biased poll and close all other avenues of dissent. They delete posts in this thread even now.

They don't care what we want, they don't care what we think.

The only reason we have half assed apologies and straw polls is because enough people hit them in the wallet with Phoenix refunds.

If they want to make mech assault they should make a 3PV founders program.

[saintchuck]

Guys and gals, give it up. Walk away with your pride and money. Lots of developers out there making great games.

[Nyden]

I'd post the numbers I got with 90 votes (screen shot available) but I imagine they'll just delete that too..

[Killashnikov]

loaded questions: embodies an assumption that, if answered, indicates an implied agreement. (e.g., Have you stopped beating your wife yet?) http://www.nobeliefs.com/fallacies.htm

[Delas Ting Usee]

Faith somewhat restored - hence the 'Saber' Reinforcement package procurement.

[CaldeteisX]

I found this lovely Cyanide & happiness comic that I think is relevant to the way talking to the community gets handled around here, I'm sure you can all figure out who is who.

http://www.explosm.net/comics/2057/

[rollermint]

I voted yes but I'm aslo going to keep it simple as others have said...

SEPARATE Qs FOR ALL TYPES OF DROPS, PLEASE! AND I WILL PURCHASE A PHOENIX PACKAGE.

[Particle Man]

Corwin Vickers, on 28 August 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

They don't care what we want, they don't care what we think.

why should they?

[Particle Man]

Caballo, on 28 August 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

No money for ya, PGI. At all.

prove it then. show them you mean business by not logging in to their foums or their game. I see a lot of threats of people leaving, but they keep not leaving. making their threats idle.

[Wolfways]

Particle Man, on 28 August 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

why should they?

Because we're customers?

[Caballo]

Particle Man, on 28 August 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

prove it then. show them you mean business by not logging in to their foums or their game. I see a lot of threats of people leaving, but they keep not leaving. making their threats idle.

I'm proving it not investing a sigle dollar since founders program, which i never should've bought in the first place. ¿Are you doing something to voice yourself?

[Wolfways]

Particle Man, on 28 August 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

prove it then. show them you mean business by not logging in to their foums or their game. I see a lot of threats of people leaving, but they keep not leaving. making their threats idle.

Why make it easy for them? They can always ban me.

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

Voted "YES" just to (once again) show PGI what the vocal minority-non-target-demography-founder-type-of-player really want's to have.

BUT: Reducing the 1PV restriction to the 12v12 only will mean that any other drops with premades like groups of 4 or (maybe later if matchmaking and all these little buggy things are working) 5,6,7,8 ... (YES, this has been stated to be comming soon after matchmaking overhaul) still will be forced to play mixed games.


So (and maybe there's a chance that PGI at least reads the threads they start themselves) I want to state that the only real solution is simply to give us the seperate queues as promised.

On the other side ... Phoenix Preorder is already cancelled, refund on it's way, and by this time next year I will already be drawn into Star Citizen. So ... who cares.