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[Mcchuggernaut]

So I have two Stalkers. Both have all basic efficiencies (which the spell checker says isn't an actual word...) unlocked. I want to sell one to put toward the price of a third so I can unlock elite level efficiencies faster. Do I actually have to keep 3 mechs with their basic efficiencies unlocked at one time, or can I do what I wanted to do and sell one to get the credits for another, and the game will still count me as having unlocked basic efficiencies for 2 variants?

[Johnny Reb]

I think so as long as you unlocked it owned or not your good. Never have sold enough mechs to know, but I believe even sold your unlocks stay for xp on the next ones.
edit: I am 99.9% sure!

Edited by Johnny Reb, 29 August 2013 - 11:10 PM.

[Modo44]

You can sell the mechs after unlocking their basics -- you will be able to elite a 3rd one.

Remember that you need at least 2 assaults (don't have to be Stalkers) unlocked to Elite to get any assault to Master. If you have not elited any assaults yet, you will probably be better served with keeping those Stalkers until you have them at Elite, so you can master the one you like.

Edited by Modo44, 29 August 2013 - 11:38 PM.

[Dalziel Hasek Davion]

I sold one of my Stalker chassis and have regretted it ever since. Think carefully before you sell. Earning the CBills to buy the chassis again is a long and lonely road - reminding you at every step that you have wasted 4m CBills+.

[Elizander]

Unless you play a lot, mastering a mech won't be too much of a priority for most people, but if you're planning for long term then yes, getting elites unlocked on your first three assaults will make the rest easier later.

[Johnny Marek Summers]

Honestly, you probably shouldn't sell. You only get half of what you paid to get the chassis. If you have bought any of the upgrades DH, ES, or FF, you will not see any returns for them when you sell your mech.

You also should want to get through the elite tree on your favorite Stalker, at least, as it will double the effectiveness of the basic pilot skills, I am told that this is a game changer for a lot of people.

So while with the current C-bill acculmilation it will be slow going, you should just play your Stalkers until you earn enough for the last one and its upgrades. This will also allow you to truely evaluate each Stalker against each other should you really want to sell one or even two. (Again most people will say: "Don't do it!")

[Appogee]

I usually only keep the two most useful variants of a chassis.

While it's painful to get only half back what I paid for the 3rd, having it sit idle in my Mech Bay, while I have to pay 300MC for new Mech Bays, is a worse option. Besides, in many chassis, the 3rd variant offers nothing the other two can't.

You can mitigate the CBill loss on the sale by stripping the Mech before you sell it, keeping useful weapons and engines, and only selling the chassis itself. This gives you a head start towards your next Mech purchase.

Selling chassis became more necessary after the recent CBill nerf. The grind to having enough to purchase each chassis became at least 30% longer than it was.

Edited by Appogee, 30 August 2013 - 06:20 AM.

[Dano_man]

I'm still relatively new to MWO, but from what I've seen and experienced in other games, I would never sell a chasis. The major reason is you never know when the developers will make the features on the one you just sold (type, number of hardpoints, etc) the new overpowered version. I would hate to sell a missle mech because it wasn't my favorite only to have the missles be needed. I guess with CW coming eventually and if you are in a guild, you will need that versatilty.

My 2 cents

[Macbrea]

At this point, I cannot see a good reason to sell a chasis. A 15 dollar purchase gets you 10 more bays. I don't think I can actually go to a movie for under that amount now.

[Darwins Dog]

To echo what others have said: You don't need to keep a variant in order to unlock the efficiencies of another variant. I've written a detailed post about the entire experience system here, if you have further questions, but this thread has covered it pretty well.

As to my opinion I would say keep the mech until you get the elite efficiencies so that you have master level available. Unless you really don't like it it's always worth holding on to. Even if you don't there may be changes down the road that make it more appealing. I sold my Cicada 3C as soon as I did the elite eficiencies, then I had to buy it back when the machine gun buffs came around. I lost about 7 million cbills on the deal considering that you don't get your money back for DHS, ES, etc., and you only get half (less than that I think) the money for the chassis. With a stalker it would be even worse.

[Mekslayer]

Ok, not intentionally thread stealing...

But it is not absolutely clear if you can unlock the basic's on three different assault chassis, in order to unlock one of them to elite. So if I unlock basic's on an Atlas, Stalker, and Highlander, can I then Unlock elite modules on any one of them?

Can I do this? ... Or do I have to own 3 Varients of Stalkers, or 3 Varients of Highlanders, with all with basics unlocked, in order to unlock Elite modules of same chassis?

Edited by Mekslayer, 24 December 2013 - 09:14 PM.

[Kaijin]

Mekslayer, on 24 December 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

Ok, not intentionally thread stealing...

But it is not absolutely clear if you can unlock the basic's on three different assault chassis, in order to unlock one of them to elite. So if I unlock basic's on an Atlas, Stalker, and Highlander, can I then Unlock elite modules on any one of them?

Can I do this? ... Or do I have to own 3 Varients of Stalkers, or 3 Varients of Highlanders, with all with basics unlocked, in order to unlock Elite modules of same chassis?

To answer your question, in order to unlock elite on any chassis variant, you still must unlock all of the basics on a total of three variants of that chassis. It is only the master that is made more easily attainable by the following mechanism detailed by Darwin's Dog in the link provided above:

"If you purchase a new chassis of the same weight class as a chassis for which you have three variants with all of their elite skills you will have less work to do in order to reach master level. You will still need to buy threevariants of that chassis and earn all of the basic skills. Once you have done that, however, you only need to earn the elite efficiencies for the ones that you intend to take to master level (because you already have threevariants within that weight class with their elite skills)."

Edited by Kaijin, 24 December 2013 - 09:36 PM.

[Devil Fox]

Mekslayer, on 24 December 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

Ok, not intentionally thread stealing...

But it is not absolutely clear if you can unlock the basic's on three different assault chassis, in order to unlock one of them to elite. So if I unlock basic's on an Atlas, Stalker, and Highlander, can I then Unlock elite modules on any one of them?

Can I do this? ... Or do I have to own 3 Varients of Stalkers, or 3 Varients of Highlanders, with all with basics unlocked, in order to unlock Elite modules of same chassis?

You need to basic 3 variants of the same mech to unlock the Elite modules. However you only need to unlock 3 Elite modules fully completed within the class chassis to unlock the master... Eg. You need 3 Basic Atlas to unlock the Elite, but you also have an elited Stalker and Highlander, so once you complete the Elite for one Atlas you can immediately work on the Master module.

[Stomp]

Apostal, on 24 December 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

You need to basic 3 variants of the same mech to unlock the Elite modules. However you only need to unlock 3 Elite modules fully completed within the class chassis to unlock the master... Eg. You need 3 Basic Atlas to unlock the Elite, but you also have an elited Stalker and Highlander, so once you complete the Elite for one Atlas you can immediately work on the Master module.

beat me to it.

[Turist0AT]

Please dont sell a Stalker. Such a great mech.

(i actually bought and sold Atlas RS, yeah you know the most expensive one... facepalm)

[TercieI]

Turist0AT, on 25 December 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

Please dont sell a Stalker. Such a great mech.

But they're all incredibly similar. Keep the 3F, another if you want to missile boat and a Misery (duh) if you own it. More than that is redundant.

That said, I have all three of mine and haven't quite pulled the trigger on selling the non-3Fs...

[dragnier1]

Turist0AT, on 25 December 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

Please dont sell a Stalker. Such a great mech. (i actually bought and sold Atlas RS, yeah you know the most expensive one... facepalm)

I thought the K's costlier?

I prefer to sell the mechs i am no longer interested to use or keep. I prefer to keep my mechbays at a manageable size.

[ImperialKnight]

dragnier1, on 25 December 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

I thought the K's costlier?

I prefer to sell the mechs i am no longer interested to use or keep. I prefer to keep my mechbays at a manageable size.

to a lot of people, the K variant doesn't exist