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[Priahpus]

I bought the founder's edition when the game was announced and I played here and there... I'm a huge old school mechwarrior fan, but it has been so long since I last played.

Well I'm finally getting into the game and I bought an Atlas R5 and set it up as a close in brawler from what I remember (SRM 6 - 4x ML - 1 x AC20) etc

I also bought a hunchback 4J and haven't touched it (that was when I first started playing it)

I'm trying to establish what I like and my play style and having little difficulty.

LRM boats are fun, but I don't think they do lots of damage and experienced players know how to get around

I do have a thing for going in and brawling at very close distances, so I'm thinking I set something up with ballistics again. I'm also a big fan of sniping from longer distances.

Looking at suggestions...

from my research here I see that PPCs and Gauss Rifles are very popular right now.

Again, I have been around for awhile, but have been clueless most the time. I'm just starting to understand the module system and all right now.

I have 4740 MC, and 8 mil credits to give you an idea of what I can afford.

also perhaps it's time to finally activate that 1 month premium account lol.

I do play other pay to win games and don't mind spending 20 bucks if I have to to support the game and get something nice.

so point me in the right direction

[Roughneck45]

Well, what direction are you going for? What mech to buy and kit out? What the meta is?

I would buy a cataphract 3D. PPC and gauss dominate everything else right now, so you can put them on just about anything and do pretty well.

Edited by Roughneck45, 31 August 2013 - 02:58 PM.

[Royalewithcheese]

If you like sniping, second the 3D recommendation. Highlanders are also pretty good with this - the 732 if you want to go 3xPPC* + Gauss, and the 733C if you want to go 2xUAC/5 + 2xPPC. All of these loadouts are considered sniping loadouts, but are pretty monstrous in close range as well.

_{*Certain weapons generate extra heat when fired in large groups - this is called "Ghost Heat" by the playerbase. PPCs generate extra heat when fired in groups of three or more, so this will be hotter than you expect 3 PPCs to be if you fire all of them in one shot. You can negate this by waiting 0.5 seconds or more between firing - for instance, firing two PPC, then one PPC a second later, or chain-firing them.}

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 31 August 2013 - 03:06 PM.

[Priahpus]

What's meta?

I have actually looked both at the 3d and the 733c

yes the direction is what mech and kit.

Edited by Priahpus, 31 August 2013 - 03:12 PM.

[scJazz]

Meta = Style

Take your Hunchback 4J (make sure it has Double Strength Heat Sinks) strap on as many Medium Lasers and Heat Sinks as you can manage with either a Standard 250 or Standard 275 engine.

Take it and run around like your hair is on fire for a bit

Piloting any Atlas right now would be suicidal since you don't have the piloting skills necessary. You need to learn the maps and stuff

Don't spend any MC, use the 1 free day of premium time you get for downloading... tomorrow. After you remember how to use the controls

Spectate other pilots... then tell us what you like or don't like and we will tell you which mech to get and how to fit it.

[juxstapo]

meta = overarching direction game balance is pointing competitive players. i.e. what weapons are most effective... not necessarily most "fun" or "franchise accurate", but most effective.

Third the vote for the CTF-3D.

[Priahpus]

lol ok. I've been doing that.

I'm not a fan of these lasers, it feels like they do no damage. perhaps I'm wrong.

what is the max range of a med laser? min range?

[scJazz]

270m full damage 540m 0 damage

You could of course strap on 2 PPCs, or go LRMs, or lots of things.

My point is... you have a couple of decently usable mechs for a "Newb" Use them for a bit, re-learn the game!

There is no point in grabbing a Cataphract 3D right now sticking on the Gauss + 2PPCs and rushing out to get totally vaporized! Then deciding that you hate the game because you can't use the best setup.

[Priahpus]

right... thats what I like about this game. so many options and styles of play.

[Liquid Leopard]

Priahpus, on 31 August 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

What's meta?

I'm glad somebody besides me had this question. I had to piece the answer together.
There's the game, as it's programmed and as the rules are written (with the intent of translating BattleTech into realtime).
Then there's the way people play the game, taking advantage of the way it's written. That's the "meta-game".

It's a lot like the difference between sportsmanship and gamesmanship.

Like, if a soccer player pretends to be hurt, and gets the ref to call a foul in his favor. Is that good soccer? He doesn't care; He just got a penalty kick against the other team, like he's paid to do.

In tabletop Battletech, I don't remember many mechs with 2 ER-PPCs and a Gauss rifle. ...But there's a LOT of that floating around in MW:O, to take advantage of the convergence mechanics, and avoid the "ghost heat" penalties for firing too many PPCs at once. Is that good BattleTech? Maybe not, but it gets me a lot of "Component Destroyed" bonuses, and some stolen kills!

Hence, the numerous people using the Highlander or the CTF-3D as a "pop-tart sniper".
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b304a5ad19e67f7

Edited by Liquid Leopard, 31 August 2013 - 03:55 PM.

[scJazz]

You know... while we are kind of on the subject, Priahpus this is for you as well.

I've blown away at least a dozen Cataphract 3Ds and Highlander 732s today along with I can't count PhrankenMech K2s and Jagers all trying to sport the Gauss+2PPC. Not one of them has managed to kill me unless we count that time on Terra Therma when I found ALL the survivors of the Enemy team and to be honest I'm not certain which of them got the kill.

I did it all exclusively in this...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e974e16e1699b78

My point being there is so much wailing and gnashing of teeth regarding Ghost Heat:The Magnum Opus, GR2PPC, and Convergence that everyone is trying it. Quite frankly, most of them don't just simply suck at it, they suck so hard that their skill level is actually NEGATIVE because they are trying to use it.

In a very serious way all the people who have spent the day recommending the Cataphract 3D GR2PPC model have been doing me and anyone who is halfway competent a huge favor. So to all those guys making that recommendation!

THANK YOU!

[NecessaryWeevil]

scJazz, I want to like that 'mech but I haven't gotten very far with it. Do you have a YouTube channel or something so I could pick up some tips?

[Priahpus]

I gotcha....

I remember when I was reading the forums last time, people were complaining it was poor sportsmanship to shoot the legs of mechs because they were the easiest way to kill the mech.

I agreed and said real life battles have no rules and you would go for the weakest link. alot of people didn't think that was the right thing to do.

perhaps that was meta game.

if anyone plays world of tanks here, you will know you can get some non historically accurate guns on some tanks. because they were 'prototypes' they are allowed in the game. yet in reality they only existed on paper. but they work well. sort of like that I guess. lol

[Priahpus]

scJazz, on 31 August 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

You know... while we are kind of on the subject, Priahpus this is for you as well.

I've blown away at least a dozen Cataphract 3Ds and Highlander 732s today along with I can't count PhrankenMech K2s and Jagers all trying to sport the Gauss+2PPC. Not one of them has managed to kill me unless we count that time on Terra Therma when I found ALL the survivors of the Enemy team and to be honest I'm not certain which of them got the kill.

I did it all exclusively in this...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e974e16e1699b78

My point being there is so much wailing and gnashing of teeth regarding Ghost Heat:The Magnum Opus, GR2PPC, and Convergence that everyone is trying it. Quite frankly, most of them don't just simply suck at it, they suck so hard that their skill level is actually NEGATIVE because they are trying to use it.

In a very serious way all the people who have spent the day recommending the Cataphract 3D GR2PPC model have been doing me and anyone who is halfway competent a huge favor. So to all those guys making that recommendation!

THANK YOU!

a missile boat pretty much. I'm so new to tactics that I don't know if it'll work or not. surely your own tactics have to do with that as well.

[scJazz]

NecessaryWeevil, on 31 August 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

scJazz, I want to like that 'mech but I haven't gotten very far with it. Do you have a YouTube channel or something so I could pick up some tips?

I'll see what I can put together tomorrow... too late to start now.

[Priahpus]

AHHHHH I WANNA BUY SOMETHING

lol...

[scJazz]

Well anymore thoughts? How have the Hunchback and Atlas been working out?

Mechs feel slow? Fast?
Are lasers working out?
Tried PPCs?
How about LRMs?

You only have enough CB for 1 mech basically. No one who isn't totally insane buys standard mechs for MC so...

Need moar feedback!

[Priahpus]

Well I tell you what...

Been playing with the atlas with this setup: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c019e4f038917ca

I'm really enjoying it except 2 things. it's reallllyyy slow, and I wish the range was little bit more at like 400ish. at 270 I'm getting little too close I think with such a slow mech.

I haven't tried the PPC. what's so special about them compared to other energy weapons (like med laser)

I have messed with LRMs and I just don't enjoy them.

[Pathos]

Priahpus, on 31 August 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

Well I tell you what...

Been playing with the atlas with this setup: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c019e4f038917ca

I'm really enjoying it except 2 things. it's reallllyyy slow, and I wish the range was little bit more at like 400ish. at 270 I'm getting little too close I think with such a slow mech.

I haven't tried the PPC. what's so special about them compared to other energy weapons (like med laser)

I have messed with LRMs and I just don't enjoy them.

The C.A.S.E in the left torso serves no purpose. It is used to protect from an ammunition explosion, none of which is stored there. Remove that and use the remaining half ton for armour.

[Priahpus]

Pathos, on 31 August 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

The C.A.S.E in the left torso serves no purpose. It is used to protect from an ammunition explosion, none of which is stored there. Remove that and use the remaining half ton for armour.

got it...

one thing is, people love to shoot at the atlas. feel like a tank. taking all the damage