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[Grugore]

Ellen Ripley, on 03 September 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:

Totally overnerfed sniping.

This patch just killed the (ER) PPC:
- Bump of base heat for both PPCs
- reduction of projectile speed
- PPC damage under 90m has been reduced to 0
You effectively reversed every buff for PPCs since closed beta
PPCs are back to closed beta levels aka. ERs are unusable and standard are actually even worse now with the removal of damage below 90m

The balance wasn't far off prior to this patch, a little buff for brawling and then sniping as well as brawling would have been equally viable.

Instead you decided to kill sniping and make brawling the way to play.


I don't understand why you are not aiming at making both playstyles viable at the same time. If you in fact did aim for that, then you failed horribly - again.


You don't hit a waepon system with 3 big nerfs in one patch guys, you just don't.
When people asked for more frequent game balance changes, gradual & small adjustments where meant, not the biggest sledgehammer you could possibly come up with.

Quit your whining! People were boating these rediculous PPC/ERPPC builds and annhiling people left and right. It's about time they jacked the heat up on them. Those are tabletop values, btw. And It doesn't kill sniping. Just makes it so that brawlers actually have a chance. Good job, PGI.

[Kenyon Burguess]

the orion is sweet, and the salty tears of the gauss/ppc boaters are a delicious accompaniment.

[anfadern]

I tell you, the Gauss is really messed up. You can't chain fire the weapon anymore. It will take some time to get used to that... Hold to arm, Release to fire

[Vasces Diablo]

After months and months (and MONTHS) of eating endless PPC bolts game after game + the endless posting on this forum as I how OP they were.... I can't believe people are actually complaining about this nerf....

....oh wait, this is an Internet forum for a game, so I can totally believe it.

[wickwire]

Good patch PGI, Orion is fun, and I like the PPC and Gauss tweaks, the tutorial has too much text and too few action though

[BlackDrakon]

HSR fix + SRM damage up to 2.5 would have been enough to make a counter against sniper builds. You just kill the snipers.

Gauss preload + PPC nerf (aggresive nerf since they are back to closed beta numbers) just killed the snipers.

I dont know what Paul is thinking, but the fact that he dont play any of those roles (brawler/skirmisher and sniper) are even more clear now for me.

Are u a scout Paul? or maybe LRM's? Do you play the game at all?

[nemesis271989]

Wintersdark, on 03 September 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

Can we have a test server with no ghost heat and these changes plz? With the PPC and Gauss changes, the majority of the pinpoint striking is fixed. Then we can just say Ghost Heat was just an interim fix while other changes were worked on, forget about it and move on?

Please?

ABSOLUTELY NO!!! Because LL spam will be there instantly....

[3rdworld]

Vasces Diablo, on 03 September 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

After months and months (and MONTHS) of eating endless PPC bolts game after game + the endless posting on this forum as I how OP they were.... I can't believe people are actually complaining about this nerf....

....oh wait, this is an Internet forum for a game, so I can totally believe it.

There is a difference between adjusting for balance; and bludgeoning it to death behind the woodshed.

[Kraven Kor]

Vasces Diablo, on 03 September 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

After months and months (and MONTHS) of eating endless PPC bolts game after game + the endless posting on this forum as I how OP they were.... I can't believe people are actually complaining about this nerf....

....oh wait, this is an Internet forum for a game, so I can totally believe it.

Eh, I agree with the intent but not the specifics.

PPC bolt should NOT be slower than a Gauss Slug, period, for any reason, ever. Make gauss 1500 and PPC 2000. I'm fine with the gauss needing to charge up, but the PPC bolt should not be slower than a gauss slug, period.

But, yeah, just here yelling at clouds, don't mind me.

[Middcore]

I was going to refrain from participating in any of the standard sturm und drang in this thread, but...

wobbles3285, on 03 September 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

The PPC and ERPPC had already been very. very under-powered

[Jakob Knight]

Commandelicious, on 03 September 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

That went far away from the games canon guys.
I'm thinking about going back to pen and paper :>

If I could find a pen-and-paper Btech group in my area, I'd be there with you. Unfortunately, webgaming killed all of that. I wish you well on your hunt, though, and hope you have a good bunch of gamers in your area!

[Kunae]

wobbles3285, on 03 September 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

The PPC and ERPPC changes you added are just plain stupid and make the game less enjoyable. The PPC and ERPPC had already been very. very under-powered and now they are essentially worthless. The slowing of the round makes hitting with them at the ranges they are designed for near impossible, and the fact they do NO DAMAGE at close range is just made up BS not at all in line with the actual source material. Why do you keep screwing things up? Just make the frickin game and watch how people play it. Don't ruin things because you have nothing better to do. If you feel like you need something to occupy your idle hands, how about destructible environments and an economy similar to the first and most beloved version of this franchise?

Um, standard PPC's just don't fire, under 90m, per canon. Know your source material before attempting to cite it.

[SJ Osiris]

This sounds like a good patch to me.

[Coralld]

Lets see...

Hinder PPC+Gauss alpha meta: Check

All that's left on my list is better MM so that one team is no longer lopsided by 500+tons, and make it so 3PV acts like the 3PV in WoT, if you can't see some one in 1PV then you shouldn't be able to see them in 3PV.

PGI, you do these last two things and I will once again spend money.

[shotokan5]

Two weeks to release and we got items that should have been handled in production. Wow the super mech that's the grabber if you go for the bait and switch. A bunch of cheap and wa, wa changes needed 6months ago and could have been done. If you fall for this trash then I have a bridge to sell you. I will even though I love the Orion not put one dime into this game until it is complete to some degree. PGI are hacks and that's all I can stomach to say.

[mack sabbath]

My Protector came to brawl with his stock motor!

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...73333f7e0c522d4

Glad to at least have one in my stable now!

[SovietArmada]

HSR still wonky after a few games.

Spider hitboxes, Cent hitboxes still bad. SRM's still dont register at all at times, same with LRM's, Lasers are better but have times they dont register. Ballistics better but not all register again.

It's an improvement but still a long way to go

[Corvus Antaka]

MasterC, on 03 September 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

Now that PPCs, ERPPCs and Gauss have been nerfed and decoupled, can we scrap the anti-boating heat penalty?

nope.

[Andross Deverow]

chiXnhawk, on 03 September 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

Can some one officially start the UAC crying timer please.

*looks at watch* GO!!!

Regards

[Middcore]

Would love if those of you who are not stuck at work would post some screenshots of your Protectors or ones you see in-game.