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[Lukoi Banacek]

Anyone have some free or paid for video editors that they have experience with and recommend?

Additionally...anyone on here do video editing?

[CyclonerM]

I can do some basic stuff, if you do not need complicated stuff i could try to help you.

[Cybermech]

adobe is one of the best ones, expensive enough.
can't remember the name.

[Goodwill Wright]

I do lots of video editing. I am a hobby AMV/GMV maker which is where we take scenes from animated shows or games and edit it to music. I also do freelance jobs, either for commercials or weddings.

But anyway, Sony Vegas and Premiere Pro are both "free" on the internet. I personally use Adobe due to how compatible it is with external programs like Maya, Cinema 4D, not to mention After Effects. Talking legit and no pirating, both of them are really expensive programs.

So, why do you ask about video editors?

[Minoxen]

Adobe Premier is the best, but quite expensive, and I use to have access to a copy, be warned if you get into that program the learning curve is Very steep. I ended up going with Corel Video Studio Pro x6, got it with a promo for less than $40. For very simple editing Microsoft's Movie Maker is clunky but you can make decent little home video dvds and such.

Audio work can be done in most of the studio programs, but you can also get Audacity - a free audio recording/editing program.

So if you want to see some work done with Corel my Let's build it series uses some of its features, and my Jenner spotlght probably has the most overlays, transitions, titlework, and etc. My Updated Jungle Tutorial probably showcases some of Adobe's stuff, but I never got crazy with all the effects, lighting etc.

Youtube.com/Minoxen

[Monsoon]

Well the best is AVID/Media Composer, but most people here aren't trained in it and it is certainly more advanced then Premiere.

[Cattra Kell]

Premier is the best currently at least IMO - its costly and has a very big learning curve but there are also a ton of tutorials on youtube - I would highly recommend watching / reading some of those if you plan on getting into making videos.

Sony Vegas is alright as well - though sometimes fussy with .AVI format videos - which is what FRAPS records in. Get at own risk - though it is a lot cheaper.

[Lukoi Banacek]

Thanks for the feedback all. We are having some discussion about a recruiting video.

[Hennessey]

Well, if there's a thread on Audio/Video I have to pipe in!

Someone started a similar thread a few months ago, and some additional information for you regarding turning off your HUD and changing your FOV (FOV edit may not work anymore though).

While most of my opinion regarding video editors is in the first thread (Sony Movie Studio: relatively cheap and has a LOT of tracks for audio), I will give you this bit of advice:

First, get good recording software. People will argue all day over what's better: i.e. Fraps, Bandicam (what I use), and a few others I can't think of atm..., but really, it's up to what you're willing to spend/learn to use, and what your system can comfortably handle (I like smaller file sizes over 60 fps myself... especially when I'm rendering in 24 fps for "cinematic" stylization, but then again I might be doing it wrong).

Second, the video editor itself will only get you so far, in that the more complicated it is (if your new to it), the more frustrating it will be to get anything done. I suggest get a couple of trials of different levels of software and see what fits you.

I tried Adobe Premiere Pro, and although I loved all of the options available to me, I couldn't justify it's pricing when Sony Movie Studio 12 did 90% of the same things, but was also 90% cheaper.

Also, the biggest factor is really: What do you want in your video?

If you need speed tweaking, overlays, multiple audio tracks, custom color/enhancements, quick cuts, animating, etc. etc... then more powerful software may be worth the money/time to learn.

Although it's a hit or miss, having someone else do your video for you is an option like you said, but you really will have to take what you get (unless someone is willing to get really involved). Plus we all have our different styles. My videos are pretty goofy and simple compared to say, Minoxen's and Wauweli's (yeah, that's right I called you guys out for great editing! TAKE THAT!), so watch a few MWO recruitment and other vids here and on YouTube, and decide what style you're going for.

The more professional the style of vid you're making, the more time and energy you really want to put in to get clean takes and even cleaner edits... Sorry, got a bit off topic.

Edited: phore hukd awn fonnicks...

Edited by Hennessey, 08 September 2013 - 02:08 PM.

[Goodwill Wright]

Goodwill Wright, on 08 September 2013 - 04:35 AM, said:

I do lots of video editing. I am a hobby AMV/GMV maker which is where we take scenes from animated shows or games and edit it to music. I also do freelance jobs, either for commercials or weddings.

But anyway, Sony Vegas and Premiere Pro are both "free" on the internet. I personally use Adobe due to how compatible it is with external programs like Maya, Cinema 4D, not to mention After Effects. Talking legit and no pirating, both of them are really expensive programs.

So, why do you ask about video editors?

In anycase, I thought that I should correct myself, the Adobe Suite. Not just Premiere Pro. For video editing, you use Premiere Pro in conjunction with Bridge, After Effects, Illustrator and Photoshop. Now, Premiere Pro is a simplified compositing software, in other words, you use it to compile footage. But the most advanced top tier (not including Maya) would be After Effects. You can do anything to everything in After Effects, you can even set up 3D workspaces. But no, you can't import 3D objects.

One popular After Effects plugin is called Twixtor which is an advance frame emulating/tweening plugin. It can make especially game footage look much smoother and allows you to slow down beyond the maximum threshold of the current frame rate. Then you got all of the Red Giant plugins like Horizon and Particular.

In all my experience, After Effects is the top tier if you want nearly no bars in creativity, only bar is your patience to learn it. Only problem with After Effects is that it's workspace is much more cluttered than Premiere Pro. But if you use both programs, you can do dynamic linking which allows you to link clips to both programs without the need to render, RAM preview, or export.

If you want to just get straight in to video editing, use Sony Vegas as it has many plugins that are compatible with it as well. Plus it has some okay - nice looking preset effects for you to use.

As much as I love and prefer Premiere Pro, Vegas is cheaper and will help get you into video editing much easier. But I would always recommend Adobe to anyone who wants to go professional.

[Glowhollow]

Why are the guys not using the adobe creative Cloud (nearly 63 € per month) with an incredible amount of programms. (Including Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe After Effects).

Greetings

Edited by Glowhollow, 09 September 2013 - 05:23 AM.

[Minoxen]

Glowhollow, on 09 September 2013 - 05:23 AM, said:

Why are the guys not using the adobe creative Cloud (nearly 63 € per month) with an incredible amount of programms. (Including Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe After Effects).

Greetings

Well, I can't speak for everyone BUT! I don't do this for a living and make very (very) little from my youtube stuff so I can't justify almost $83.12/month to be able to get the full adobe suite. I spent $35 on Fraps and $40 on Corel and use free picture editing software, and my hobby has yet to pay off those bills, let alone the electricity and man hours I'm very lucky my fiance is tolerant of my desire to make videos

[Hennessey]

I'm going to second what Minoxen said. I had the cloud as a trial for a while, and really liked all the features (of which I maybe used 3 really...), but for essentially one months worth of subscription, I bought Sony Movie Studio 12. You have to realize it's still going to cost close to a thousand dollars a year for that cloud sub, and you can outright buy the software for that. If I had used the cloud subscription for each month I've used my 100 dollar software, I'd have paid almost 900 dollars by now. Definitely not worth it if it's not your main source of income...

[Nakamura Takeshi]

Goodwill Wright, on 08 September 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

After Effects, Illustrator and Photoshop. Now, Premiere Pro is a simplified compositing software, in other words, you use it to compile footage. But the most advanced top tier (not including Maya) would be After Effects. You can do anything to everything in After Effects, you can even set up 3D workspaces. But no, you can't import 3D objects.

You can with the AE Element Plugin, I imported the Cataphract PGI model (as an .obj file...basic texture on it and animated a camera around it for a quick test) the other day. It's an amazing plugin.




Lukoi.

I am a Video Editor and have the Adobe CS6 suite at home (I've also used Avid and Final Cut won't touch version X for now at least ). I have worked with people in person and over e-mail, if you have a clear cut idea of what (and can give them a shot list or vivid description...music, effects, etc.) you want that's very good. If you throw footage at an editor and say "Make it GREAT" then there's a problem for both sides...unless they've done that type of work before.

My advise is KISS (Keep it simple stupid...no offense) and not overdo the video with too many effects or too many elements (people etc.) and have a clear vision of what you want to do (Storyboard if you need to, it can be bad scribbles but have it down on paper). There are some great youtube MWO videos and one guy in particular I'd recommend you look for (sorry the name escapes me), he does incredible recruitment videos.

Edited by Nakamura Takeshi, 19 September 2013 - 08:32 AM.