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[Alienweevil]

Idk if that fps is still an issue. But i seem to get 60fps perfectly fine on maxed settings.

[Catamount]

Seconded on Geek Squad being useless. From what I've seen, I don't know what the hiring requirement or training is for that place, but it isn't much. I know having a pulse is considered a plus, and if you're lucky, you might get the guy who knows that submersion in water is not a valid diagnostic technique, but beyond that, don't expect much other than a $200 bill once they get done knowing less than you do.

[v4skunk]

Magic Murder Bag, on 19 September 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

heh, least you can run your game with medium settings, I can't run mine properly without making all but texture detail low.

Build: Ge-force 660Ti, Intel quad processor i7, Asus P8Z68-V PRO GEN 3 motherboard with 32gig RAM, forgot power supply brand but its wattage is 600, chassis is an Azza hurricane w/ 10 vent fans (damn thing thinks it's an AC unit for my room). Memory: Samsung 128 gig SATA3 and a Western Digital caviar black 1 terabyte hard drive. The rig in question is hooked to a Samsung TV via HDMI cable.

I'm going to get it checked by geek squad when i scrape enough money, but some suggestions would be nice for now.

LOL just update your GPU drivers at Nvidia. You are a moron if you go to geeksquad.

[Truesight]

Well, an FX-8350 does not seem to be too much of a problem, also 16gb RAM here (Photoshop demands and i follow).

Still i play on the lowest setting except for textures, i really like it if even in the most crowded battles my fps do not drop below 50-60. Targeting is way better this way.

[Bullseye69]

You never said who made your motherboard but check your motherboard manual, most 990 fx rev 2 board especailly msi gigabyte asrock and asus have overclocking utlity built into bios and mostly can giev you a little boost without borking something up to bad. It why i wanted to build a new systme using either a asrock fatality1 or extreme 9 or asus sabertooth board. So if you can post who made your motherboard I will see what I kkind findout about safe overclocking for that board my guess would be 300 to 500 mhz would be double and get the results you want but waiting for direct x 11 will see you getting better framerates with that video card.

By the way to everyone in the forum you need to check out the new r series video card from amd.

Check out image pic 20 and look at what some of the prices going to be.Here is the link.

http://www.techpower...on-r9-290x.html

[Badconduct]

Truesight, on 26 September 2013 - 01:17 AM, said:

Well, an FX-8350 does not seem to be too much of a problem, also 16gb RAM here (Photoshop demands and i follow).

Still i play on the lowest setting except for textures, i really like it if even in the most crowded battles my fps do not drop below 50-60. Targeting is way better this way.

I run on the highest with the 8350, anything under high is purely videocard related for this chip.

[Truesight]

Badconduct, on 26 September 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

I run on the highest with the 8350, anything under high is purely videocard related for this chip.

Yeah, my Videocard is from 2010, as soon as i hear from Star Citizen about the final specs, there will be a new one.

[SirDubba]

I'm waiting for some new hardware. LoL me out but it's gonna be Xeon for a while 1230v3 with my hot fellow HD6950(6970), what do you say about that? Right now I'm getting minimum of around 30fps with low settings on Q6600-rocky.

[VikingN1nja]

4gb per core? how much ram in total, that thing should play this game very well.
I had a 2600k with a 7950 and i was getting better fps than a guy with a 6 core amd and gtx680. The 8350 should be good and the card is more than adequate. Is the hard drive and old model? perhaps it's bottleknecking it.

I am using an old xps at the mnute i had 4gb of ram and noticed an improvement from adding 4gb, 8 in total.
People say it does not make a difference well it gives your OS more breathing space making it more efficient whilst running the game.

Try driver sweeper, highlight amd and remove everything, reboot have your latest drivers ready for install.

http://www.guru3d.co..._download.html.

Also test some other games like skyrim etc see how it performs with them.

SirDubba, on 28 September 2013 - 05:35 AM, said:

I'm waiting for some new hardware. LoL me out but it's gonna be Xeon for a while 1230v3 with my hot fellow HD6950(6970), what do you say about that? Right now I'm getting minimum of around 30fps with low settings on Q6600-rocky.

I have an xps with a q6600 just did the tape mod for 3ghz i am using a 5850 with 8gb of ram. My res is 2048x1152 and all sliders on low but texturing and environment on high + AA off get average of 40+ hits 60 at times.

Game like CPU speed if you have an overclockable motherboard crank it up baby.

Edited by omegaorgun, 28 September 2013 - 06:06 AM.

[VikingN1nja]

Burned_Follower, on 17 September 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

Ok when It comes to Hardware, my motherboard: 990FX R2.0, my RAM, 16GB dual channel, my CPU: FX8350 8core, 4.0GB for each core, my video card, XFX7950(just installed it today), my PSU, 750watt, my HDD 750GB, my OS: Win 7 Ultimate 64bit.......now for some reason the only way I can get decent FPS rate is if I run my graphics settings on medium...and even then I get good FPS rates only half the time......I want to have really good FPS rates on MAX SETTINGS........what do I need to change about my hardware to reach my goal of being able to compete on max settings? Where did I go wrong with my PC build?

Also, since I installed my new video card today, none of my internet browsers work properly. Firefox and Google Chrome won't even boot...and when I used internet explorer I'm able to connect to this site and make these two posts...but for some reason I can't press "enter" and make a new paragraph.....however I can do it on my word processor. Anybody have an explanation for this?

http://www.piriform....speccy/download

Can you run this and just copy the summary so we can see semi detailed list of your machine. What exactly is your average fps, 50+ is good in my books hitting 60 better 70-80 just dam sweet.

Your browswers are not working did you install all your adobe flash etc, ie and non ie, did you check device manager to see are all your drivers correctly fucntioning, did you remove older drivers if any before installing latest.

1. Botched install or software.
2. HDD is bottleknecking.(run diagnostic software on it in case it's on the way out)
3. RAM is iffy run memetest86 and check.
4. Graphics card may have errors again test with other games , try furmark or 3d mark vantage to stress test.

Don't use the disc go to amd's website get latest 13.9 i think.

http://support.amd.c...SupportHub.aspx

Edited by omegaorgun, 28 September 2013 - 06:19 AM.

[SirDubba]

omegaorgun, on 28 September 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

I have an xps with a q6600 just did the tape mod for 3ghz i am using a 5850 with 8gb of ram. My res is 2048x1152 and all sliders on low but texturing and environment on high + AA off get average of 40+ hits 60 at times.

Game like CPU speed if you have an overclockable motherboard crank it up baby.

"Tape mod"?

Yes mine is overclocked. But my Vid was on the higher side.. 1.325V so there was not much headroom with temperatures. Still, I've been running it @ 3GHz for couple years. My mobo is P5Q-deluxe but I am not too experienced with overclocking, I've managed to get quite stable 3.2GHz but 3.6GHz has been no-go so far :/

And the 30fps I mentioned is minimum during heavy battles, mostly average is around 45fps. VSync enabled without AA, x1080

Edited by SirDubba, 28 September 2013 - 06:28 AM.

[Burned_Follower]

Burned_Follower, on 19 September 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

Well, I downloaded/installed a program called MSI Afterburner. I did this because a geek squad agent reccomended it over the phone when I was asking about my low FPS rates and heating issues(after several games in a row I was at 80 to 82c). I used MSI afterburner to turn the fan speeds all the way to 100 percent....I now just did 5 matches back to back on MAX SETTINGS ...and the LOWEST my FPS rate went during the heat of battle was 30fps.....and the Hightest temp was 72c...which cooled down to 59c less than five minutes of just hanging out in the mechlab. Looks like this matter is solved. Thanks for all the helpful info guys. I do intend on overclocking my CPU/GPU in the future just not at the moment.

Sorry I just quoted myself here because it seems that this matter is still open. This thread was created because of two issues:
1. Had "below 30fps" rates despite getting a new video card
2. My browsers weren't working correctly after new GPU install.

Thanks to this thread all three issures are solved.

1. I updated all my drivers on my PC....that improved most of my performance.
2. I downloaded/installed a program called MSI afterburner and was able to manually bring my fan speeds up to 100%...this GREATLY improved my temperature issue and brought my FPS rates back to over 30fps. Most of the time my fps is in the 40s and 50s now. I very rarely ever see it dip down to the 20s, and that's like after 20 matches in a row.(I only have enough time to play like that once maybe twice a week so no issues with me, lol)

3. When it comes to my browsers not working properly, I attempted performing what is called a "clean boot"...advice I found via google searching. This improved the speed at which my PC booted and my internet browsers work just fine now. I do have a slight problem where the shortcut on my taskbar keeps turning into the image below:


Other than that, I'm no longer having any issues and consider this matter closed...except for the fact that my firefox icon keeps turning into what you see above. It hasn't effected my browsing. When I re-install firefox it restores it back to normal but after a while it goes back to what it is now...even if I just keep the shortcut on the desktop.

Edited by Burned_Follower, 29 September 2013 - 09:08 AM.

[bloodnor]

PGI hate AMD. I needed a new build since 12 vs 12 came in (but I needed an upgrade anyway) so I went all out on some upgrades I can play maxed out all the time but the diff between AMD and Nvidia support is clear.

[Gorthaur]

Catamount, on 17 September 2013 - 07:12 PM, said:

-make sure you're running Full Window instead of Fullscreen, because fullscreen is buggy as hell

Glad I read this thread for this. I cannot believe how long I have been playing and I never realized this game had Full Window as an option. This is what I run every game in if I can.

I guess a lot of games do not have Full Window as an option so I probably subconsciously assumed this game did not have it either haha.

bloodnor, on 29 September 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

PGI hate AMD. I needed a new build since 12 vs 12 came in (but I needed an upgrade anyway) so I went all out on some upgrades I can play maxed out all the time but the diff between AMD and Nvidia support is clear.

Not necessarily true. I know quite a few people that get bad issues with this game and have Nvidia cards. I have a Nvidia and I get bad FPS/other issues on different patches.

It is just the way it goes with programming a lot of the time: you fix something and the fix breaks something else. At least we aren't 20 or so years back when every game usually ran specifically on 1 video card, and there were a ton of random cards on the market. Voodoo MechWarrior 2 anybody?

Edited by Gorthaur, 29 September 2013 - 10:34 AM.

[Catamount]

Gorthaur, on 29 September 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

Not necessarily true. I know quite a few people that get bad issues with this game and have Nvidia cards. I have a Nvidia and I get bad FPS/other issues on different patches.

No, not quite a few people, most people, at least insofar as those seeking tech support it seems.

Several months ago, my unit leader called BS when I said Nvidia users seemed to be having more trouble than AMD users by far, so I went and tallied up several pages of threads, and the OPs of said threads who were having trouble consisted of Nvidia users over AMD users by a ratio of six to one. Now, that was several months ago, but subjectively, I have noticed this has at least seemed to be true since the hardware forum was even opened, and not much has changed since then.

Next to STO, which was melting Geforce 200 series cards, I've never seen a game give that company's GPUs as much trouble as MWO.

Truesight, on 27 September 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

Yeah, my Videocard is from 2010, as soon as i hear from Star Citizen about the final specs, there will be a new one.

At least the Hangar Module gives a very rough idea on how the game behaves, but really, the time to buy a new GPU is when your old one becomes inadequate. If that's now, I'd get one as soon as the R9 series comes out; if it's not, I'd hold off even if SC's requirements comes out, because the later you replace, the faster the hardware you get to spend the next several years with.

Edited by Catamount, 29 September 2013 - 04:42 PM.

[Gorthaur]

Catamount, on 29 September 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

No, not quite a few people, most people, at least insofar as those seeking tech support it seems.

Several months ago, my unit leader called BS when I said Nvidia users seemed to be having more trouble than AMD users by far, so I went and tallied up several pages of threads, and the OPs of said threads who were having trouble consisted of Nvidia users over AMD users by a ratio of six to one. Now, that was several months ago, but subjectively, I have noticed this has at least seemed to be true since the hardware forum was even opened, and not much has changed since then.

Next to STO, which was melting Geforce 200 series cards, I've never seen a game give that company's GPUs as much trouble as MWO.



At least the Hangar Module gives a very rough idea on how the game behaves, but really, the time to buy a new GPU is when your old one becomes inadequate. If that's now, I'd get one as soon as the R9 series comes out; if it's not, I'd hold off even if SC's requirements comes out, because the later you replace, the faster the hardware you get to spend the next several years with.

Ultimately I think a lot of issues stem from their choice in using CryEngine 3. I have been hearing about a lot of problems for anyone who develops a game on that engine, especially MMOs.

[CooloutAC]

http://technewspedia...35-video-cards/

[CooloutAC]

Gorthaur, on 29 September 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

Ultimately I think a lot of issues stem from their choice in using CryEngine 3. I have been hearing about a lot of problems for anyone who develops a game on that engine, especially MMOs.

all mmos suck. pc gaming is dead because programmers can't even program for the new hardware. Its 2013 and not much has changed or advanced in the past 10 years. intel is holding our human evolution back by still having a stranglehold on us with the myth that "cpus are still needed for remedial tasks" when cpus account for less then 10% of the computing power in the most powerful super computers in the world.

Its a shame that the GPU has not taking over yet, which should make the cpu account for as much processing power as the computers bios! I mean it really is a shame..... They say it all boils down to time and money, but I don't think we even know how how to program for parallel procesing, cause noone has even attempted it.. we are just beginning to barely use 4 cores in agmes (when 6 cores are out there), when we should be actually using the gpu more. we are at a standstill. Maybe its true its all politics and money...

intel themselves say parallel processing is the future yet do nothing to advance it, they keep promising to make a gpcpu but never comes through, and tries to stall nvidia from doing so. Doesn't matter what engine we have if the cpus can't process all the data from all the other players fast enough.

Maybe they should of used the engine blizzard uses for WoW. Piranha might of been more sucessful that way, but for a real mmo, even if its stick figures, our pc's technology can't handle it.
This game is only dx9! I mean its running off the cpu mostly. Why do we even have dx11 cards? Thats why when you look at those benchmarks to get any decent fps you need an i7 4.8 ghz!!

Edited by CooloutAC, 12 October 2013 - 01:21 PM.