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[MisterFiveSeven]

So I've been thinking a lot recently about how every new mech that comes out has a huge ct hitbox. This means that they benefit more than other mechs from an XL engine.
XL engines cost a boatload of cbills... Leaving you less cbills to buy new mechs.
This means more incentive to purchase new mechs with MC instead of cbills, which are already in shorter supply due to the rewards changes.

Tin foil hat or brilliant marketing strategy?

[FupDup]

Very sneaky sneaky. However, the loophole is that people can simply avoid buying those "XL friendly" mechs and go for other choices instead.

[Grey Ghost]

[Deathlike]

It isn't necessarily a bad thing... having an XL option is technically a hitbox/balance decision. On the other hand, the mechs like the Orion are kinda squishy.

[MisterFiveSeven]

Deathlike, on 18 September 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:

It isn't necessarily a bad thing... having an XL option is technically a hitbox/balance decision. On the other hand, the mechs like the Orion are kinda squishy.

I agree there needs to be some variety. I don't mind certain chassis being better suited to XL than standard, there just seems to be a pattern emerging...

Anyway, I'm reasonably certain they only "fixed" the Kintaro because a bunch of people spent real money on them.

The anger over something like the Awesome has just turned into painful acceptance. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it'll ever get revised.

Edited by MisterFiveSeven, 18 September 2013 - 04:49 PM.

[MadCat02]

i do agree that some mechs are inferior in design to begin with

then again is there a such thing as perfect balance? never seen that in a vedio game

theres nothing to loose but your own ego so just enjoy the game

Edited by MadCat02, 18 September 2013 - 05:38 PM.

[Dracol]

Ah the Awesome... was always shown as a barndoor in the source material. Any other rendition of it would have just looked silly.

[MisterFiveSeven]

MadCat02, on 18 September 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

theres nothing to loose but your own ego so just enjoy the game

Who's talking about their ego?

[Krivvan]

The Jenner and Dragon are some of the biggest CT mechs around, and they were in from the start.

[Otto Cannon]

[Glaive-]

[MisterFiveSeven]

We'll see what project phoenix looks like....

[Applejack]

Regardless of whether or not these 'Mechs are more XL-friendly, they could be weaker no matter which engine type they choose since the CT kills you no matter what. It also makes it more difficult to spread damage around, further reducing the power of an oversized CT/undersized RT/LT.

It may also be a trade-off. Smaller RT/LT's mean there is less armor neccessary in these locations, no matter which engine type you choose. It also means that the weapons mounted in the LT/RT are less susceptible to destruction.

[Lightfoot]

Tin foil hat I think. The mechs with the big CTs are just supposed to die faster because of their ELO placing as far as I can tell. Excluding the early delivered Awesome all the big CT mechs are tops in their ELO weight classes. The Victor has a smallish CT.

I would like it if the hit-boxes overlapped slightly so the damage gets spread out a bit more realistically. Mechs would last a little longer too, maybe fewer weapon nerfs would be needed.

[MisterFiveSeven]

Lightfoot, on 18 September 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

The mechs with the big CTs are just supposed to die faster because of their ELO placing as far as I can tell.

You'll have to explain this. Not sure I follow.

[xengk]

I actually prefer the pre-buff Kintaro with it's huge CT.
This allow me to trim almost 2ton of armour from side torsos to field XL engine, more weapon or DHS, it is a like free endo steel that doesn't take any crit space.

[Deathlike]

MisterFiveSeven, on 18 September 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

Anyway, I'm reasonably certain they only "fixed" the Kintaro because a bunch of people spent real money on them.

Well, that and the CT was actually 90% of the mech (a little exaggeration, but let's be honest, it was the sure bet to core one).

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The anger over something like the Awesome has just turned into painful acceptance. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it'll ever get revised.

Well, if you whine long and hard enough, you might get your way... see Raven.

Krivvan, on 18 September 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

The Jenner and Dragon are some of the biggest CT mechs around, and they were in from the start.

The Jenner's large CT is its own problem, but considering it is arguably the best light on the field, it's hard to ask for a buff for the most useful light in the game.

The Dragon... I'm biased to the Quickdraw... and despite it being "larger than life" at times, it's better than the Dragon's seemingly "easy to core from any direction". Although, it does have a playstyle difference...

[Krivvan]

Deathlike, on 18 September 2013 - 08:41 PM, said:

The Jenner's large CT is its own problem, but considering it is arguably the best light on the field, it's hard to ask for a buff for the most useful light in the game.

I agree, it's the one main downside to the Jenner that makes the other lights at least somewhat viable in comparison.

[PanzerMagier]

It's enough of a conspiracy that I can believe it's true. It's not enough to persecute them for it. ^.^
Besides there's bigger things to argue about.

PGI/IGP has some real shady business ethics. Absolute Maximum cash grab and absolute minimum customer relations care.
But you usually pick up that practice when you work with a minimum viable product model.

[General Taskeen]

Dracol, on 18 September 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

Ah the Awesome... was always shown as a barndoor in the source material. Any other rendition of it would have just looked silly.

Nope.

Skinny, Flat CT center line