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[h4v3n]

On Monday of last week I have pick up MWO and have fallen in love. I was fortunate enough to get into the mwtactics closed beta and tabletop being my first love, I was ecstatic. I have been playing MWT for the past month now, and though buggy, it has been wonderful. I then was curious to see how MWO has been doing, now that I have a PC worth running it. As it turns out it is just about everything I could have hoped for. Great battle experience, getting to pilot my favorite mechs in combat against other players. Because, let's face it, the next best thing is MW4:mercs, and compared to this, MW4 sucks to high heaven. And the fact that this is free to play has sucked me right in. Until yesterday I never really looked at the forums beyond the "mech strategy guides" forum because I was looking at loadouts and getting information on what works and what doesn't work within the rules of the game. Then I decided to stray elsewhere and read some other forums, BAD idea. All the whining and B******* about this nerf to cbills or the balancing of weapon loadouts by ghost heat, I'm sorry they don't let you 1-shot mechs anymore, but I feel that it's for the better. I have only seen 1 person running a mech with 5-6 PPCs on it, and you know what? it shot me, shut down, and got blown away lol. In the cannon universe you'd never see or field such a mech anyway, so why should it be viable on here?

Coming from a new player who has yet to put anything into the game but time, I feel like my experience so far has been fantastic. sure, I screwed up the first time I started. I got though that bonus time in the beginning and made silly purchases and made a few just awful mechs and wasn't doing so hot once that time was done and I was at standard earnings. so, I realized my mistake and made a new account and tried to do things right. I saved everything I could, I researched builds and mechs that sparked my interest and now a week later, I am the proud owner of two mechs, a stalker and a jagermech. I have the stalker loaded the way I wanted it and am working on the jagermech. I only have a std engine to work around with until I save enough Cbills to buy the XL for the jager, but until that time I am playing with a different loadout then I originally wanted, but that's OK with me. I realize this is Free to play and that there would be a "grind". But really, aren't we here for one thing? to blow away very large hunks of armored metal madness? So why are people complaining SO much on how much they need to play to do something? when the point of the game is to do what you're complaining about doing, which is fighting in battles and blowing things away.

That leads me to my next point which is the purchasing system. C-bills are great and have done me well so far with my two mechs. I've only been here a short time and I know that I will need to play a lot of games with the mechs I have to be able to buy anything else. but if you have 1 or 2 chassis that you like, why complain about wanting more so quickly? Sure, it'd be nice to have 2 more mechs to play around with and mess with builds, but I realize I don't have the C-bills for it yet, so I'm going to continue to enjoy playing the GAME instead of playing a pseudo-pokemon and try to collect them all. I, like a lot of people, are here for the 5-10 minute battles, not to min/max a chassis for the sake of min/maxing it. Now, I never got to experience the older times when things were faster, but coming in as a new pilot, things are going at the speed I expect them to. and when the time comes, you bet I'm going to pony up the cash to buy more mech slots or a package. I'm not quite up to putting down nearly $30 for a mech (Mr. Orion) because I think that's a bit excessive and ridiculous since I easily blow them away with the two chassis I have now. But, I will support the game in the near future and will continue to enjoy the "thinking man's FPS" for a great long while.

I would also like to add that I am very glad that I did not read the forums first, or get involved in the community till now, the excessive whining and discontent with superficial aspects of the game most likely has, and will continue to, drive new players away from the game. I've witnessed the drain that constant negatively focused forums have had on a game, it's dismal and downright disgusting. To blow up relatively minute issues and make them seem like they are choking the life out of a game is ridiculous and counter productive to a new game trying to make its way in the market. Especially a gem such as this. So, to the "negative Nancies" out there who aim to ruin the game, why don't you stop, think, and comprehend what you are doing here in the first place? If you don't enjoy the game, don't uselessly lurk on the forums. Let the rest of us discuss or read other topics of interest other than "omg they suck because they did X, Y, Z" We want to play the game and enjoy it for what it is, not what you perceive it to be.


/my .02 cents

[DeadlyNerd]

oh... it's another one of those.

get on your real account and face the music, or don't bother posting at all.

[Magna Canus]

I totally agree.

[Jestun]

thinking man's fps no longer applies.

the demographic has changed as they've added things like 3pv to look over cover, throttle lock for people who couldn't handle the amount of thought required, arm lock for the people who's heads explode at the thought of 2 crosshairs, etc.

[h4v3n]

wow are you really that dismissive? This is my real account, this is how I think about the game and if you can't even come up with something decent or even intelligent to say, why bother posting your drivel Deadlynerd or magnakanus. come back when you have something to say. I said my peace either say something meaningful, or flame somewhere else.

[Earl White]

Negativity is prevalent in most games forums, it's not a problem, in fact it's usually the best place to "get things off your chest". I don't see how it could put new players off, hell most people don't even bother using the forums.

Let's not say it's all negative though, new players are given lots of good advice from vets in the new players section, and recruitment/house sub forums are a very positive place. I think you are overestimating the effect the negative or critical posts have on the game populace as a whole, it's mostly just drama/hyperbole mixed with some legit feedback.

Edited by Earl White, 10 September 2013 - 06:24 AM.

[Claive]

@h4v3n

I wouldn't say that people are being dismissive. Your original post is esentially saying "I am having fun and if you aren't having fun you are doing it wrong." There are different kinds of people, who feel more or less strongly about different things than you do. Coming along and saying "THINGS ARE PERFECT!!!" when you have explicitly stated that you understand that other people are having issues is just picking a fight.

Edited by Claive, 10 September 2013 - 06:45 AM.

[Magna Canus]

LOL, dude, back off of the self-hurt button for a second. I was agreeing with the OP. Tons of negativity boggs down the game and is not constructive.

[Lostdragon]

OP, if the forums are more negative here than in other games (debatable) then I would say PGI has brought it on themselves. I have been following the game since it was announced anf playing since March. The mood of the community is drastically different now due primarily to failures on the developer's part. This is all well documented.

Go back and read the original Dev blogs. Read the multiple posts that said CW details were just around the corner for the last year. Read about ghost heat and how it works. Perhaps then you will understand the community's frustration a little better.

[h4v3n]

what prompted me to write was 6 pages of nothing but complaints on Cbills. I think there were 5 topics regarding something else. I understand ghost heat to a point, and can see why it's a solution to a problem, I know you guys have to see it too. It was the same way with MW4, the PvP was nothing but how many AC 10/20 or ppcs or gauss you could throw onto a daieshi.

and sorry to blow on you magnakanus and to a lesser extent deadlynerd, I didn't mean for it to come out that harsh, I thought you were agreeing with deadlynerd, my apologies but to deadlynerd: you didn't say either way what you though, you just dismissed how I thought about things with no explanation as to why.

Edited by h4v3n, 10 September 2013 - 07:34 AM.

[DeadlyNerd]

h4v3n, on 10 September 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

but to deadlynerd: you didn't say either way what you though, you just dismissed how I thought about things with no explanation as to why.

I actually dismissed the whole OP without reading it because "1 post". I don't care if you agree or disagree with how things are, but post on your real account next time.

[The Boz]

DeadlyNerd, on 10 September 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

I actually dismissed the whole OP without reading it because "1 post". I don't care if you agree or disagree with how things are, but post on your real account next time.

Because newbies can't possibly have valid thoughts.

[DeadlyNerd]

The Boz, on 10 September 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

Because newbies can't possibly have valid thoughts.

Tell me, who has a better view of the game, someone who's been playing it for months, or someone who just jumped in to use up what he can get for free?

Anyway, this is not a post from someone who just started playing. Someone who just started playing doesn't have any interest in what the forums are saying. I could'v made a whole page about Runescape 3 just from the first 10mins of playing, but I didn't cause I was there for only 10mins.
Also, while I was playing Vindictus, I've never had the need to read the forums, and I was playing it for quite a while. Why? Because I was too busy having fun ingame and never even thought about sharing my insignificant newbie opinion. The only reason someone would read the forums of a f2p game is if they didn't like how things were, but wanted keep playing.

Edited by DeadlyNerd, 10 September 2013 - 08:43 AM.

[The Boz]

I am the counterargument to your post. I started reading the forum an hour before I started playing the game, and I made my first post an hour after I started to play.

[Scromboid]

What you have to say may be valid, but starting out your argument by declaring that everyone else's point of view as invalid destroys your credibility.

You know what? Keep playing. Go buy yourself some Atlas, a few heavies... you know, some XLs and then try to kit any of that out in a format you enjoy. Then, work on your ELO and get into a competitive bracket. On yeah, do not forget your heat sink tax, endo tax and all that... plus, btw, if you want more robots, you gotta hit that PAY WALL.

For you, it may be great, because you are just getting to the party and do not know what has been promised. For us? Well, the host has already hit on my date, threw my car keys in the garbage disposal and vomited on my shoes. Then he asked me to pay for the drinks that I brought to the party.

We are allowed to be upset. You coming in here with your know it all attitude and dreams of sugar plums is cute, but it will wear off quick and boy, wait for it, because the door will hit your so hard on the way out, you'll forget the whole point of coming in the first place and wonder where your wallet went later.

Edited by Scromboid, 10 September 2013 - 09:24 AM.

[h4v3n]

even though I am new to this game I am not new to the battletech universe. I came to the "meta" forums because I was looking for information on the gameplay meta and mechs, not "meta" as in game economy. Then I went on to read what people thought of the different nerfs. I wanted to share my thoughts on everything I was reading and hoped to give a different perspective on how the game is. many on here are saying the game is unplayable or they are no longer playing till X,Y, Z is fixed, but I wanted people to know that in it's current state the game is great, and I believe it will remain great. nothing that I see when playing has made me go "OMG this game is terrible /ragequit"

[Ransack]

Hey, give the OP a break. We were all new hopeful and optimistic at one point. He doesn't know that PGI has brought all of the bashing that they get on themselves with their curious practices. He'll learn... or not.

[Team Leader]

Ransack, on 10 September 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

Hey, give the OP a break. We were all new hopeful and optimistic at one point. He doesn't know that PGI has brought all of the bashing that they get on themselves with their curious practices. He'll learn... or not.

Enjoy it while you can, OP. the game doesn't get as fun when you run out of cadet bonus and have to start grinding new mechs, which you have to buy full price and sell for half if you leave everything in it. They also suck until you get your efficiencies up. It gets worse as time goes on. Also, most of the rage is because PGI lied about basically everything and recently the 3PV set off a powder keg. I myself have stopped playing until they put in split queues.

[Demosthones]

Hey guys give the OP some slack here. There is no reason to bust him over being optimistic. It's actually a nice change of pace here among the forum lurkers. I agree that the game is fun. Could it be better? Well hell ya. I want tonnage limits in 12mans. I want a 1pv only 12man. I want them to deliver on time and not promise things and then do another. However, I have never stayed with a game as long as I have this one. I play it every day and the thing that is keeping me coming back is not PGI or upcoming features. It is the community and the guys I play with in my merc group. It is fun to get on and blow things up with my buddies. If I pugged all the time I would go crazy. In fact I hardly pug at all anymore. So, OP don't get discouraged. Go find a merc group to play with, get on comms, grab a beer, and have fun.

[Johnny Z]

THERE'S A BUILDING IN MY WAY AND I CAN'T SEE!!!!!!!!!! I DONT WANT TO PRESS A OR D OR USE MY MOUSE!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS TO TOUGH!!!!!!!!!! fixed = 3rd person view added

Edited by Johnny Z, 10 September 2013 - 12:41 PM.