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#1 MechWarrior5152251

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:23 AM

I always had a positive win loss ratio. Now I constantly drop with a bunch of morons who run into the tunnel and generally just suicide. I often make 30K Cbills a match and my w/l ratio is dropping. It can't be that I arrived at a higher ELO because all the players are dumber than the ones I used to drop with.

I used to just carry matches, but I cannot carry hard enough to get wins with noobs I get stuck with lately. WTF happened?

#2 That Dawg

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:25 AM

You're supposed to carry your team with your awesome ELO.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:26 AM

There aren't enough players for ELO banding to work, so you get what you get.


and yes, 12 average player against 2 good players and guys in trial mechs is the same in the eyes of the matchmaker.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:27 AM

Lol.So much hate in your post, OP.I guess you should just carry harder.

#5 Flaming oblivion

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:29 AM

I wish they'd let people choose ,Give a box in options

Wait longer get a decent game

Screw balance give me free wins/ slaughters that were over before they began.

Give people the ability to chose.

Personally I'd rather wait 30 mins for a game .Then have somebody useless incompetent and not trying to win on my team.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:39 AM

Honestly, I wish they'd just get rid of Elo altogether and let the chips fall wherever they may...it couldn't be worse than a matchmaker that is constantly — and intentionally — trying to ruin your fun.

Edited by Bhael Fire, 19 February 2015 - 10:41 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2015 - 10:44 AM

View PostFlaming oblivion, on 19 February 2015 - 10:29 AM, said:



Personally I'd rather wait 30 mins for a game .



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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:02 AM

People in this thread have absolutely no idea how match maker works.


Fun fact, a perfectly balanced game where everyone is roughly the same elo will have 12-0 stomps MUCH more often than lopsided matches. when it's a 50/50 split, any mistake you would not normally make will end up snowballing into a stomp, where if the game is lopsided you can afford to make a mistake and not have it be the deciding factor in the game because the skill levels of all involved are wildly different.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:08 AM

its all fudged up because of the new mechs....

#10 Wrathful Scythe

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:10 AM

Where is that nice picture of an Atlas who carrys his team up the mountain.... "I have fun"

It needs to come up on the first page.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:11 AM

View PostAsrrin, on 19 February 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

People in this thread have absolutely no idea how match maker works.

:lol:

View PostAsrrin, on 19 February 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

Fun fact, a perfectly balanced game where everyone is roughly the same elo will have 12-0 stomps MUCH more often than lopsided matches. when it's a 50/50 split, any mistake you would not normally make will end up snowballing into a stomp, where if the game is lopsided you can afford to make a mistake and not have it be the deciding factor in the game because the skill levels of all involved are wildly different.


MM doesn't put together people with the same Elo; MWO uses team Elo (i.e. an aggregate of each player on the team). But yes, you're correct, when team Elo is roughly the same, 12:0 stomps happen frequently...but not because everyone is roughly the same, but rather because of the huge disparities in individual skill.

Some of the best matches I've had are when every player is roughly the same skill level....and it usually ends up being very close.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:12 AM

View PostAsrrin, on 19 February 2015 - 11:02 AM, said:

People in this thread have absolutely no idea how match maker works.


Fun fact, a perfectly balanced game where everyone is roughly the same elo will have 12-0 stomps MUCH more often than lopsided matches. when it's a 50/50 split, any mistake you would not normally make will end up snowballing into a stomp, where if the game is lopsided you can afford to make a mistake and not have it be the deciding factor in the game because the skill levels of all involved are wildly different.



Wrong Aspirin....
a perfectly balanced match will go down to the wire 70% of the time- or more.
The other 30% will comprised of rolls where the series of mistakes made will domino a win, or a loss.

Fact Check http://en.wikipedia....o_rating_system but you knew that......................right?

#13 LORD TSARKON

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:12 AM

CARRY HARDER!!! This happened Yesterday...
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#14 Mcgral18

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:12 AM

View PostWrathful Scythe, on 19 February 2015 - 11:10 AM, said:

Where is that nice picture of an Atlas who carrys his team up the mountain.... "I have fun"

It needs to come up on the first page.

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#15 FupDup

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:14 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 19 February 2015 - 11:12 AM, said:

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I'm supposed to be the one who posts that! :P

#16 Morticia Mellian

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:14 AM

What is ELO? >.>

#17 FupDup

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:16 AM

View PostMorticia Mellian, on 19 February 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

What is ELO? >.>

ELO = Electric Light Orchestra

Elo = Skill rating system

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:18 AM

View PostMorticia Mellian, on 19 February 2015 - 11:14 AM, said:

What is ELO? >.>


ELO is Electric Light Orchestra.




But...I think they mean Elo (named after Arpad Elo's rating system). B)

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:20 AM

View PostFlaming oblivion, on 19 February 2015 - 10:29 AM, said:

Personally I'd rather wait 30 mins for a game .Then have somebody useless incompetent and not trying to win on my team.


That must be difficult, since all of your games include you.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:24 AM

^ LOL

Stat page disagrees.

All the comment is worth .

Stats dont lie

Humans you've crushed do.

Wont respond to another comment like this. I just want people to stop.
I get I've crushed you in some way , Not sure how but behave , Again my stats are awesome so your barking up the wrong tree, But I'ma block you the hate was funny but its just getting sad now .



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