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Orion M, Why Case?


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#1 Platinum Spider

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:24 PM

The Orion M (The expensive one) comes with CASE on both side torso's but also an XL 300 engine. Why? Can this even help? The rules as I understand them say the whole side is blown out and CASE just stops the transfer to CT.

#2 Eximar

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

It's there because of the ammo, not the XL.

#3 RandomLurker

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

It's a stock loadout. It would matter in a TT campaign because it could prevent the pilot from being killed, even if it didn't save the mech.

It doesn't matter in MWO.

#4 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:29 PM

Because all the base mechs are as designed for the TT game. In TT, your XL will still be destroyed, but the mech is salvageable. They are investigating ways to make them useful in MWO, but minus them returning to the glory days of Repair and Rearm, IDK how.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:29 PM

It would save you some money in repairs in TT or something who knows, IS CASE is almost as good as a narc :)

#6 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:50 PM

View PostPsikez, on 24 September 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

It would save you some money in repairs in TT or something who knows, IS CASE is almost as good as a narc :)

y'all just gotta know how to use it. Sure, it's only good for that one volley, but being able to pop and run means no need for LOS exposure. My unit has been pretty good about landing 180 LRMs on whoever has the beacon, so we would disagree with that assessment.

Also..... if you plant that NARC beacon on the BACK of the mech, it doesn't get destroyed in that first volley.

It was buffed ages ago. It's quite useful for those with the sneaky skillz.

#7 Utilyan

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:21 PM

Is there a possibility that a crit would target the case itself rather then the engine or ammo? I always wondered if it when it comes down to critical if it doesn't target empty slots it might target whatever is there.


For example if my side torso just has a XL engine vs xl engine, heatsinks, ams, case ect.

#8 General Taskeen

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 05:30 AM

Because PGI refuses to provide a simple CASE fix for MWO, which is simply making CASE protect the XL engine from any internal explosive damage from ammo or Gauss. They were "investigating" it in Closed Beta, and its been a damn year.

Edited by General Taskeen, 25 September 2013 - 05:30 AM.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 05:40 AM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 24 September 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

y'all just gotta know how to use it. Sure, it's only good for that one volley, but being able to pop and run means no need for LOS exposure. My unit has been pretty good about landing 180 LRMs on whoever has the beacon, so we would disagree with that assessment.

Also..... if you plant that NARC beacon on the BACK of the mech, it doesn't get destroyed in that first volley.

It was buffed ages ago. It's quite useful for those with the sneaky skillz.


So you're saying that with a high degree of skill and a coordinated team, NARC has a situational use?

Edited by PeenyPoke, 25 September 2013 - 06:14 AM.


#10 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 07:05 AM

Compare the cost of repairing half a mech vs the cost of replacement. Not something that matters in MWO but from a nation state perspective it's a smart move for the relatively small investment of 1 ton.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 12:12 PM

View PostPeenyPoke, on 25 September 2013 - 05:40 AM, said:


So you're saying that with a high degree of skill and a coordinated team, NARC has a situational use?

I mean, for anyone who has a 4 man team, and tries it, it can work rather well. Just because you formed an opinion based off of poor earlier implementation and it's weight, doesn't mean it's true. Would I use one solo PUGing? Hell, I don't waste my times with LRMs or TAG at all when trying to cat herd, it's sadly every mech for itself.

But for anyone with a remotely competent team? NARC can be very useful. But by all means, keep believing the misinformed hype. And feel free to ignore me when I plant that useless beacon on your backside. Makes my job a LOT easier.





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