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[Reno Blade]

Hello fellow mechwarriors!

We saw the nice new map for the slope degree here: new-battlemech-movement-behavior.

Would you like/use a new vision mode for your HUD and/or Battlegrid to show such a color range on the terrain/map?



Possible vision for the HUD:

Edited by Reno Blade, 29 September 2013 - 03:31 AM.

[Thomas Dziegielewski]

You are talking about what we like to call a 'normal'

http://en.wikipedia....rmal_(geometry)


I'll suggest it to design because i think it would be really cool to see for players. And to make it harder on the pilot, you would have to interpret it correctly.

Our tech director said it would be very easy to do as well.

[Johnny Z]

Great idea. Went with battle grid only.

Edited by Johnny Z, 25 September 2013 - 08:43 AM.

[Reno Blade]

Thanks Thomas!

[PawPaWuFF]

you mean like http://mwomercs.com/...ement-from-mw2/ ?
old school wireframe image enhancement i bet could make some neat effects with ecm (fuzzy/distorted) maybe even visualize the ecm bubble

[Reno Blade]

Not realy like MW2 wireframes. More like an overlay like night/thermal does for the HUD.
And ofc for the Battlegrid its very easy to just have a second colored image to swap on a key press.
(I will make a picture later at home)

[Firewuff]

Love this idea, gives pilots a way of spoting passable and impassable areas. Good tactical view to plan attacks but not something to run in all day long. Even if it only gets occasinoal use it adds depth to the game

[Reno Blade]

Added a possible HUD vision overlay image to the post.

[culverin]

WOW!!!

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!!

Then I cab figure out when/where I would be stuck.
No more invisible/impassible terrain!

[Phoenix Branson]

This is a great idea. +1

[nrg9x]

make it a toggle option , like the N.V. and Thermal view and im sold !

Great idea !

[Veranova]

Yes this would be great as an added vision mode!!

Surely this would also be useful to the map makers who are trying to get rid of "stuck" bugs/objects?
They could just look at their maps through this, and walk around to see all the possible objects a mech could get stuck on?

[Reno Blade]

Veranova, on 29 September 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Yes this would be great as an added vision mode!!

Surely this would also be useful to the map makers who are trying to get rid of "stuck" bugs/objects?
They could just look at their maps through this, and walk around to see all the possible objects a mech could get stuck on?

Aye that would be a nice addition. Specially, if the colors have "hard" borders instead of gradient from one level to the other.

[Corvus Antaka]

love it!

Also an option to disable the map itself in the minimap grid so it's transparent too

[Edustaja]

Could also be a module

[Jman5]

Reno Blade, on 29 September 2013 - 03:32 AM, said:

Added a possible HUD vision overlay image to the post.

While this is pretty neat looking it raises a red flag for me from a design perspective. Why would anyone not use this vision mode on clear maps? All the vision modes have downsides. Whether it's reduced detail, draw distance, or heat, you sacrifice something to gain something else so they are situational. What would be the downside for running this vision mode 24/7 on canyon, alpine, or Forest Colony Snow? It's just straight up better than normal vision.

[Besterino]

To be honest, I don't like it. Why? Part of "skill" is "knowing the map". I strongly believe someone who knows the maps by heart should have an advantage over someone who doesn't - or can't remember / is not able to read/see the information and the clues a map gives you / simply doesn't care. If you spent a lot of time trying to climb a wall with an assault without success and get separated from everyone else / shot in the back by enemies, well, that's how it should be. Additionally, I am not sure whether it will accurrately show where you could "wiggle" your way up, basically discouraging new players to try new things, because, "hey, the overlay says I can't go there so I can't go there". Obvoisly the last argument is not valid if it DOES show any place you may step on depending on the direction/angle you're approaching (to and from) - wonder though how you'd implement that.

Edited by Besterino, 30 September 2013 - 09:34 AM.

[LauLiao]

Jman5, on 30 September 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

While this is pretty neat looking it raises a red flag for me from a design perspective. Why would anyone not use this vision mode on clear maps? All the vision modes have downsides. Whether it's reduced detail, draw distance, or heat, you sacrifice something to gain something else so they are situational. What would be the downside for running this vision mode 24/7 on canyon, alpine, or Forest Colony Snow? It's just straight up better than normal vision.

Make mechs harder to see, reduce draw distance, DONE.

[Stijnovic]

I don't like it, it doesn't add to the immersion.

It would be a valid option for the minimap though, perhaps toggle between height and normal map even?

[FinsT]

Thomas Dziegielewski, on 25 September 2013 - 08:06 AM, said:

You are talking about what we like to call a 'normal'

http://en.wikipedia....rmal_(geometry)


I'll suggest it to design because i think it would be really cool to see for players. And to make it harder on the pilot, you would have to interpret it correctly.

Our tech director said it would be very easy to do as well.

Cool! However, i voted "other (comment)". Because, i'd rather wish design department to do much more desired (by me) things 1st, and this additional mode 2nd. Except if this one is *really* easy to do, i guess...