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[Cervani]

Another newbie thread! I'm more of a sniper/long range sort of guy, so I'm looking for a mech to fit that playstyle. I've been looking at the Catapult-K2, but I'm not sure on any others. I DO know I need at least some close range weaponry to keep away the pesky lights (my current bane of existence with my trial mechs -.-) but I know next to nothing pretty much about this game.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Caswallon]

Awwe more Lt Hate.. No I jest have you considered a Lt as a sniper? Some good Raven builds with dual ER Large Lasers out their. At least with a Lt SNiper you have the speed to re deploy away from the enemy fast once they (inevitably) spot you?

K2 can work OK but is a bit slow for me though I am seriously considering one topartner the C4 Cat I bought a while back when they were on sale..

[Ingga Raokai]

Yager is the way to go,. i recommend get 3 of them as they will be useful towards unlocking basic and elite,.,

most Catapult are lrm boat, k2 is the only type that can carry balistic

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...heavy_jagermech

[Cervani]

Oh no, my only hate towards the light is the fact they always seem to pick on me in matches, heh. If there is an effective sniper light out there, I'm all for it. And I have no preference to ballistic or missile... so either one will work for me. I'm currently scratching up the cbills to buy any mech (I have about 3mil right now).

[z3a1ot]

Hello and welcome to the game!

Here is a good website for you to make your own builds and experiment before you buy anything:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab


There are many variants you can make, its really about what you prefer. Generaly for long range ballistic you can go with AC2, AC5, UAC5 and Gauss rifle. For energy long rage you can go PPC, ERPPC (ER stands for extra range than regular), ER Large Lasers. Note that energy weapons generate a lot of heat than ballistic do. SRMs have maximum range of 270 meters and LRMs have max range of 1000 meters (they also have minimum range of 180 meters). You should always upgrade your mechs to double heat sinks because it helps very very much.

Experiment on that site and build what you like .

[Strayed]

If you are just starting you'll end up with around 10mill C-bill when rookie bonus is over. Not enough to buy a K2 and outfit effectively (at least for most builds).

Dealing with lights is a matter of practice and positioning. There's quite a few mechs that you can buy and also outfit competitively for under 10mill Cbills.

One I'd recommend if you don't mind going slow is the Cataphract 4X

Edited by Strayed, 01 October 2013 - 03:19 AM.

[Photec]

Nublet here as well, as this will be my 5th day ingame

Love my Cataphracts as they seem to perform well both at distance and up close. My biggest problem so far is that the guy piloting them seems to have some anger issues and a deathwish, so he rushes in whenever he can. Bloody mechpilots The Cataphract 3D is supposedly a sweet sniper, the muromets/4x is a nice allround moneymaker and the 2X is a killer short/midrange alpha striker, so that line gives me much to play with at least, and I'd recommend it

The K2.. I've heard many good things about it

I had some trouble with lights as well, and if you are unsupported and facing a pack of lights you will probably die. Stick close to others (you dont have to go in a blob, but, you know, closeish) and get your back to a wall where their big guys cant fire at you while you are stationary protecting yourself from the little buggers, and cry for help, and you should be fine

Thats just my newbexperience tho, so take it for what its worth

Edit: I use more emoticons than most guys. Sowwy

Edited by Photec, 01 October 2013 - 03:20 AM.

[Cervani]

Caswallon, on 01 October 2013 - 02:59 AM, said:

Awwe more Lt Hate.. No I jest have you considered a Lt as a sniper? Some good Raven builds with dual ER Large Lasers out their. At least with a Lt SNiper you have the speed to re deploy away from the enemy fast once they (inevitably) spot you?

K2 can work OK but is a bit slow for me though I am seriously considering one topartner the C4 Cat I bought a while back when they were on sale..

Tell me more of this light sniper you spoke off. A highly mobile sniper seems delicious, if the damage is good. I'm mainly worried of the cost it would take to build one.

@Strayed - I'm looking at the Cata now, and some builds on the forums. It looks interesting.

Also, why do I have a post limit? I can only make two more posts til tommorow?!

[z3a1ot]

Pistrik, on 01 October 2013 - 03:32 AM, said:

Also, why do I have a post limit? I can only make two more posts til tommorow?!

You have that limit until you played your first 25 matches I believe. After that you can post anywhere you want.

http://mwomercs.com/...-post-or-reply/

Edited by z3a1ot, 01 October 2013 - 03:36 AM.

[Strayed]

Pistrik, on 01 October 2013 - 03:32 AM, said:

Tell me more of this light sniper you spoke off. A highly mobile sniper seems delicious, if the damage is good. I'm mainly worried of the cost it would take to build one.

@Strayed - I'm looking at the Cata now, and some builds on the forums. It looks interesting.

Also, why do I have a post limit? I can only make two more posts til tommorow?!

He's speaking of something like this (yeah just made it on fly ain't exact)

You can fit a PPC Spider for under 10 mill but does require a fair bit of practice. Plus you'll be easily hunted down and eaten by any light that spots you.

[Cervani]

I'm messing around with the trial jenner mech, with 3xML and 3xSL and averaging 1-2 kills a round... far better than I have been doing in any of the larger mechs.

Edit: Yeah I'm a bit hooked on lights now. 3 kills, 5 assists and 3 spots as a jenner with the above setup.

Edited by Pistrik, 01 October 2013 - 04:21 AM.

[Arete]

Just remember that in general you want your primary sniper weapons mounted as high up on your mech as possible which makes it possible for you to peek-shoot over hills/obstacles while exposing as little of yourself as possible. Also, jumpjets are very nice for snipers, since you can poptart (jump high, then aim and shoot while falling).

This is why the CTF-3D is such a popular sniper mech; it has two energy hardpoints at the top of the side torsos and JJs.

Stalker PPC snipers are popular due to the fact that you can stuff energy weapons in the arms in the same way.

The K2 can also make use of PPCs in the "ears" like the stalker can.

Jagers and Blackjacks are also very good snipers with their top mounted arms and really good hardpoints.

[scJazz]

The danger of the long range/sniper style which Pistik refers to is that such play tends to get the sniper isolated. That and they spend all their time zoomed in. Gunsight blindness is a bad thing in any game.

I'd recommend starting with a Jagermech. That way when you have more options for playing. Buy the Jager DD first. This way you also get an XL Engine with your first purchase.

[Redshift2k5]

All mechs can be outfitted with long range weapons; it is the nature of the mechlab that weapons are categorized by type, not by mech.

The K2 is an excellent choice, and serves well with PPCs or ballistic weapons, both excellent long-range engagement weapons. The K2 excels with an XL engine, but that will take you longer to save up. The K2 is 5.2 million, plus 1.5 million for DHS. A 300xl to really maximize the K2 is a further 4.9 million but you can buy that later while using the K2 to save up funds.

Keep in mind, if you want to complete the skilsl for a mech, you need three of a type. The K2 is cool, but the other Catapults may not suit you as well; An alternative would be three Jagermechs but again, you want to research to see if there are three of those that you like.

Personally I have 3 Catapults, 3 Jagers, ad 3 Quickdraws. Mobile Heavies (from 70 to 96 kph) with long range weapons are great mechs

[Cervani]

This will sadly be my last post until either tommorow, or I go through 25 matches :x. Anyone have some good light mech builds? Raven-3L specifically, or even some Jenner builds you think would make a good brawler or sniper.

I want to get Caswallon back in here but it seems I can;t send message or anything.

[Caswallon]

Pistrik, on 01 October 2013 - 03:32 AM, said:

Tell me more of this light sniper you spoke off. A highly mobile sniper seems delicious, if the damage is good. I'm mainly worried of the cost it would take to build one.

@Strayed - I'm looking at the Cata now, and some builds on the forums. It looks interesting.

Also, why do I have a post limit? I can only make two more posts til tommorow?!

Will do but I'm at work right now (can't you tell LOL!) Haven't acess to my build notes or my smurfey links. But in case nobody can oblige before I get home with A raven dual Er-Large build I'll PM you a link to mine later

Oh and you have a post link only coz your new. When you have played more matches and posted more over a period of time the Game will realise your not a dummy account made up for spam purposes and give you free posting credentials.

-Cas

[Aym]

Jenner's are very effective and very easy to set up, but expensive your first one will cost you a LOT because of the XL 300 engine.
One thought for a versatile sniper platform is the Cataphract 3D. Properly set up it WILL cost you a lot, 13.3 million, but it will give you a decent XL 280 engine to use on some other mechs.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0fa557f42e13613

As for Jenner set ups, the trial Jenner will cost you about 9 million c-bills when you're done, or whatever in MC if you spend some real money. As a side note, the Trial Jenner is about the best dollar-to-cbill ratio in the game, I THINK Sarah's jenner MIGHT have been better, but maybe not. It's a GREAT price for the equipment, just food for thought, plus you get bonus XP if you buy it outright as a champion mech...
Anyway, trial jenner minus Ferro armor (to save you some cbills if you go this route) is about 9 million cbills set up thusly
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...01f6ef058ea7b90

Personally I LOVE both Cataphracts and Jenners, so I'd say you can't go wrong with either. Also, with either route, the second and third will be much cheaper since you can re-use the XL engine. Also, if you go BOTH routed, the Cataphract 3D really loves an XL 300...

[Kargen]

The K2 is a favorite of mine, although I must say I did not enjoy levelling up the Missile Variants to unlock the Elite skills.

Jaeger would be a good Heavy to start with imo, although it sounds like you are having fun with lights - I don't know much about those.

Jaegers give you a wide variety of weapon loadout options and aren't too slow with a 300XL. Same goes for the Cat K2.

Im not a big fan of Cataphracts as I find the low arms frustrating - the 3D variant does mitigate this with jumpjets however.

[RF Greywolf]

Welcome to the game Pistrik!

Sniping mechs are actually common and many different mechs can make excellent snipers. The mechs that have higher hardpoints allow you to hug cover while still being able to fire over the cover. (Jagermech, Catapult-K2, Blackjack, Hunchback and Dragons all have nice hardpoints for sniping with direct fire weapons...sorry if I missed any.)

I have seen some nice sniper builds for Cicada's in the past. They handle like a light so you might want to look at them as well.

Hope it helps.

[Arnold J Rimmer]

I used this Spider for a while. The lasers give you that long range poke without a minimum range handicap if you get chased off by another Light. I had a lot of fun!